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Offline hjon71

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Re: Thoughts or Rebuttals?
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2013, 11:39:50 am »
and they are doing it from passenger jets with chem trails!!

i read it.  followed the link to the PDF.  there is no way to evaluate the accuracy of what they have posted or the legitimacy of the PDF.  some wonk can unlayer it and take a look maybe.  i am not that wonk.  ;)

They are so divorced from their own interests that even when their own security and that of their children is finally compromised, they do not seek to avert the danger themselves but cross their arms and wait for the nation as a whole to come to their aid. Yet as utterly as they sacrifice their own free will, they are no fonder of obedience than anyone else. They submit, it is true, to the whims of a clerk, but no sooner is force removed than they are glad to defy the law as a defeated enemy. Thus one finds them ever wavering between servitude and license.
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Re: Thoughts or Rebuttals?
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2013, 01:43:35 am »
What they have posted is largely inaccurate; firstly, the USDA programs are not "secret" and the documents never needed to be "uncovered" since they were public documents and posted on the USDA's website for all to access (it's like saying "my own investigation has uncovered startling facts about" a famous murder, where your "investigation" consisted of reading a CNN.com article about the murder).  However, the USDA program targeting birds would not explain massive kills in other countries such as Canada and Sweden, and nothing whatsoever proposed by this article implicates the USDA in any fish kills.  Further, the USDA did not indicate anywhere that the Beebe, Arkansas events were part of its blackbird-kill program, nor would it make sense for them to be poisoning birds only one single night out of the year.   But the article nevertheless begins by pinning all of these events on the USDA.

The USDA's approval of Imidacloprid may have been regrettably speedy but it was not "illegal".

And most egregious of all, the article uses clip-art of wasps to represent bees.  Unforgivable.

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