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Title: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on June 24, 2022, 02:36:24 am
Please read this press release:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2022-06-24/varroa-mite-detected-at-newcastle-port/101180446

This is not an ideal time to inspect hives in many parts of Australia...BUT if at all possible I urge beekeepers to check hives, do an Alcohol Wash if you are anywhere near the location.

I have written to the Federal Minister for Ag and hope that if enough beekeepers write, swift action will follow.
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: max2 on June 24, 2022, 02:39:57 am
Here is a great instruction regarding an alcohol wash:
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=how+to+do+an+alcohol+wash#kpvalbx=_zE21YoKXNN7Fz7sP04W9wAY16
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on June 24, 2022, 08:55:10 am
Max that is big news, but not good news. I hope y'all have caught the situation in time. I have a question, does your country have wild bees, (feral hives), in the same area? If so, these could become 'uninhibited' breeding grounds for Varroa Destructor.

Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: The15thMember on June 24, 2022, 10:46:40 am
Oh man, hopefully you guys can somehow get it under control before it spreads.  What a shame. 
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: max2 on June 24, 2022, 08:27:24 pm
Hi Ben,

Newcastle is quite a long way away from us here and I'm not up with the local situation.

I would assume that there would be wild nests of honey bees in the forested areas near the port - say withing 5 km.

SHB have knocked the wild population here and I would expect a similar situation there.

The information is still poor. I understand that the swarm was found at the port but ...maybe on an arriving ship? I will keep you posted.

I have sent out e-mails to many beekeeping friends but mostly elderly they often don't use e-mails as a means of communication.
I'm partially deaf and hardly use the phone.

I will visit a good beekeeping friend who has connections with the beekeeping organisations.

max


Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: max2 on June 24, 2022, 08:31:10 pm
Thhis has just come in:

https://honeybee.org.au/varroa-mite-detected-at-the-port-of-newcastle/

It looks like the authorities are taking it seriously....and have success!
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on June 24, 2022, 10:36:44 pm
Thanks Max, wishing you the best.

Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on June 25, 2022, 12:41:00 pm
Hi Max, I have sent to you a PM.

Below is a video just put out by Richard Noel of Brittany France. Richard is a hard enemy of Varroa Destructor. I introduced Richard previously a couple years ago here at Beemaster on another topic. See the topic here at Beemaster: "Treat for No Treaters"

Richard, as we are, is VERY concerned about (Varroa Destructors') recently found presence in your Australia. Hopefully these concerns will be short lived as the beekeeping community in your country will have things nicely under control. I am enclosing a video he just put out with some of his thoughts on the matter.

Phillip


https://youtu.be/dD7mb-zD2yY
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Bee North on June 25, 2022, 05:01:40 pm
Thanks for your support guys....fingers crossed Max!

We have been through this before in the port of Townsville which is up here in North QLD and we managed to contain it. Let's hope we have been successful this time as well.

Arrrh...very scary!
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: max2 on June 25, 2022, 07:38:16 pm
Yes, thanks for the video and concern.

I have written to the fellow who is in charge of the operation and will keep you posted if I hear some news.

Lots of questions...
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: max2 on June 27, 2022, 02:27:32 am
Here is the lastest:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2022-06-27/beekeepers-suffer-multi-million-dollar-set-back-deadly-parasite/101185494

I had a meeting with 3 other beekeepers - professional ones, not small hobby ones. Interesting to note that the avearage age of the four of us is 74!

I understand that the beekeepers who have their hives destroyed will be compensated .

As you can see in the article noy only are beekeeprs affected but with the movemnet of hives banned for now, the Almond industry and other Horticultural crops will be affected.

It may well be the wake-up call the country and our leaders needs.
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: max2 on June 27, 2022, 04:43:27 am
The latest:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2022-06-27/what-is-varroa-mite-and-how-will-it-impact-australias-honey/101185714
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on June 27, 2022, 09:04:05 pm
Thanks for the updates Max.

Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: max2 on June 28, 2022, 02:55:03 am
Sorry, but there is not good news:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2022-06-28/bee-eradication-nsw-government-control-varroa-mite/101188568
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: The15thMember on June 28, 2022, 12:06:07 pm
Max, am I correct in remembering that varroa was introduced to Australia several years ago, like 2014 I think, and was successfully eradicated?  I feel like I remember seeing articles from around that time and it was gotten under control again, but maybe I'm incorrect. 
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: max2 on June 28, 2022, 07:12:18 pm
You are correct.
I think they found Asian Bees in the Cairns area and the area was declared varroa free some time back.

It seems this incursion is much more serious.

Reading between the lines ( I hope I'm wrong) this time varroa was around for some time before it was noticed.

Of course we all hope that it can be erradicated - time will tell.
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: max2 on June 29, 2022, 12:07:36 am
More bad news - Varroa is spreading...

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-29/varroa-mite-red-zones-added-in-nsw-hives-to-be-destroyed/101191926
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Bee North on June 29, 2022, 12:27:39 am
Not good Max

Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on June 29, 2022, 12:28:18 am
It had once seemed to me that a 'thought to be' blind, slow moving, tick looking tiny bug would be slow to move, slow to spread. However, after viewing a video that The15Member posted here a time ago, showing a varroa mite 'seeming to jump' as a paper clip might be drawn to a magnet. The speed and distance of the varroas' move was a real eye opener for me. Perhaps Reagan will repost it here for you all if she can can find it...

Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Jim 134 on June 29, 2022, 05:53:37 am
At will be very difficult to get rid of all the Varroa );


        BEE HAPPY  Jim134   :smile:
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: NigelP on June 29, 2022, 08:25:22 am
Whilst it's very sad you guys have now got varroa. It's not a death sentence, most of the rest of the worlds beekeepers live with the little blighters. There are plenty of effective treatments for keeping their numbers low so that they have little noticeable impact on the bees.
But killing all the bees and  burning all those hives, I really feel for any keeper having his livelihood destroyed.

But eradicating feral bees....is that even possible?

How did it arrive? A swarm of bees setting up home on a container ship? Illegal imports of bees?
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: The15thMember on June 29, 2022, 12:20:09 pm
It had once seemed to me that a 'thought to be' blind, slow moving, tick looking tiny bug would be slow to move, slow to spread. However, after viewing a video that The15Member posted here a time ago, showing a varroa mite 'seeming to jump' as a paper clip might be drawn to a magnet. The speed and distance of the varroas' move was a real eye opener for me. Perhaps Reagan will repost it here for you all if she can can find it...

Phillip
I think FloridaGardener actually posted that first, let me see if I can dig it up. 

Edit: Here it is.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oij1HOxD3iU
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on June 29, 2022, 09:55:51 pm
Whilst it's very sad you guys have now got varroa. It's not a death sentence, most of the rest of the worlds beekeepers live with the little blighters. There are plenty of effective treatments for keeping their numbers low so that they have little noticeable impact on the bees.
But killing all the bees and  burning all those hives, I really feel for any keeper having his livelihood destroyed.

But eradicating feral bees....is that even possible?

How did it arrive? A swarm of bees setting up home on a container ship? Illegal imports of bees?

I agree NigleP. Though not a death sentence, this news is a hit below the belt.
Lets consider:
Even if every single domestic hive which has varroa is eradicated, feral bees which may be affected and harboring Varroa Destructor are still a breeding ground and a solid bridge for varroa. If just 'one' feral hive having varroa is missed, then the spread starts all over again. Millions of dollars wasted not counting the heartbreak and heartache.

I will in no way try and dissuade efforts to control this pest by any method or means our friends see fit to try and deem necessary. At the end of the day they must be able to say "we did our best and we controlled the problem", or "we did our best even if the problem is not solved".

Whether a successful eradication of varroa or not; It may well be time for our friends Down Under to educate themselves about Varroa Destructor if they haven't already...
There is LOADS of GREAT information here at Beemaster for your convenience concerning 'every conceivable aspect' of Varroa; From research papers posted from all over the world concerning every aspect of varroa, including treatment methods along with the breakdown of treating tools. The Search engine at the top of the page, might be a best friend to our friends from DownUnder at this time, win, lose, or draw...

I think it is safe to say, if we at Beemaster can be of aid, please call on us. Not only will the staff try and help but our many members from all over will try and help as well. I say this with complete confidence.

Sincerely,

Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: max2 on June 30, 2022, 12:23:40 am
Further restrictions:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-30/victoria-and-queensland-ban-bees-from-nsw-amid-varroa-outbreak/101196640

I'm located in Queensland - the staet just North of NSW .

It is interesting to note that the introduction of Honey is also banned.

Many of us have pushed for the ban of introduced honey from Varroa areas for a long time.

Our local supermarkets purchased 50 kg of honey from me just today. Covid has made a lot of people aware that we have to become more self sustaining locally and honey is just one item.

It will be interesting to see how this will unfold...in a few weeks time.
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: NigelP on June 30, 2022, 03:46:51 am

Many of us have pushed for the ban of introduced honey from Varroa areas for a long time.

What is the rationale behind that idea?
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Bee North on June 30, 2022, 06:30:51 am
Whilst it's very sad you guys have now got varroa. It's not a death sentence, most of the rest of the worlds beekeepers live with the little blighters. There are plenty of effective treatments for keeping their numbers low so that they have little noticeable impact on the bees.
But killing all the bees and  burning all those hives, I really feel for any keeper having his livelihood destroyed.

But eradicating feral bees....is that even possible?

How did it arrive? A swarm of bees setting up home on a container ship? Illegal imports of bees?

Yes...everyone else around the globe has learnt to deal with them but obviously we still dont want them!

Even if there is a slight chance of eradicating them i say go for it 100%. Most of our Aussie beekeepers are happy to sacrifice their hives to fight this invasion...yes it's a shame to destroy hives, let's hope it's not in vane.

There has been a massive media push here highlighting the threat in an attempt to raise awareness.

Although our chances of eradicating this incursion are becoming less likely its still possible.

We dont have to eradicate every feral hive in the red zone, not every colony has the mites (yet). But every colony destroyed increases the odds of success.


Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: max2 on June 30, 2022, 07:34:58 am
more...

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-30/varroa-mite-red-zone-added-near-newcastle/101198984
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: max2 on June 30, 2022, 07:17:12 pm
Valuable genetics at risk at Tocal: https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2022-07-01/varroa-mite-threatens-tocal-ag-college-queen-bee-research/101196944
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Skeggley on June 30, 2022, 09:14:57 pm
My understanding through my sources is that >100hives is compensated so there is no financial incentive to hobbyists.
Feral colonies are likely to be poisoned open fed with fipronil.
Although it?s unlikely the eradication program will work if the outbreak is as bad as it seems, and it does seem to be worse than originally thought it is worth the attempt. The ?oh well it was always going to happen? attitude riles me. I?ve heard it regarding hive beetles here in the SW yet it is still contained and we enjoy the benefits.
Fingers crossed.
Sometimes living in one of the most remote cities in the world has its benefits.
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 01, 2022, 08:44:53 am
Will killing 'SOME' feral bees in these areas be good enough?

"We're also looking at a release of chemical in certain parts of those eradication zones which will help nullify some of the feral populations that we know exist."

"These latest discoveries mean that we've got, potentially, a widespread issue and we need to be extremely vigilant about how we're dealing with the disease," he said.

"The next few days will really tell whether we're perhaps able to hopefully control this or how widespread the actual situation is."


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-29/varroa-mite-red-zones-added-in-nsw-bees-hives-to-be-destroyed/101191926
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 01, 2022, 11:41:46 am
It has been determined that Varroa can not live more than 5 days without a host which is a promising good thing.

Honest Questions:

If all domesticated managed hives are completely destroyed in the kill zones, what will become of the bees which may have missed the eradication process while out forging, which may host live varroa? Will they beg into unknown feral hives? The same question for eradicated hives on the outer limits of the kill zone. What will become of the forging bees which no longer have a home. Can they simply find their way to a hive 'outside' of the eradication zone, or an unknown feral hive 'outside or inside' the kill zone? Will they beg into a nearby hive, bringing with them the varroa they may have in their possession, (on their person)?

If a feral hive is eradicated (killed on the spot) with a 'certain chemical' which was suggested in the article I posted earlier, will the chemical kill the capped brood in these feral hives as well where varroa may be living and developing? Will this varroa survive? Will the varroa emerge from the capped brood and live for 5 days, allowing time for a robber bee from another unknown feral hive to come along allowing themselves to becoming a brand new Varroa host?

Most likely the officials there In Australia have already asked themselves these very same questions and probably many more? If so, what are their answers?

Varroa Mites | Texas Apiary Inspection Service (TAIS)
They are spread within a colony when bees come into contact with one another. Mites are also spread between colonies and apiaries via robbing, drifting, swarming, and absconding. Varroa mites are unable to live for more than a few days without a host and therefore, you will not find Varroa mites in a dead out hive.
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: NigelP on July 01, 2022, 12:42:25 pm
An article in ABJ by Randy Oliver showed some of his marked bees ended up in different apiaries of his approx 5? miles away.....
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Bee North on July 01, 2022, 05:36:29 pm
Quote from: Skeggley it is worth the attempt. The ?oh well it was always going to happen? attitude riles me.
[/quote

Me too Skeggley.

Even controlling the spread could give you guys decades over there if its done properly.
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Bee North on July 01, 2022, 05:40:08 pm
It has been determined that Varroa can not live more than 5 days without a host which is a promising

It is Ben...thanks for that fact I was not aware.

Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 02, 2022, 01:03:24 am

Thank you The15thMember and thank you FloridaGardener.

Phillip



It had once seemed to me that a 'thought to be' blind, slow moving, tick looking tiny bug would be slow to move, slow to spread. However, after viewing a video that The15Member posted here a time ago, showing a varroa mite 'seeming to jump' as a paper clip might be drawn to a magnet. The speed and distance of the varroas' move was a real eye opener for me. Perhaps Reagan will repost it here for you all if she can can find it...

Phillip
I think FloridaGardener actually posted that first, let me see if I can dig it up. 

Edit: Here it is.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oij1HOxD3iU
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 02, 2022, 04:21:59 am
Varroa is spreading South - very close to Sydney
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jF1coHT0KUQ
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Bee North on July 02, 2022, 04:41:29 pm
Thanks Max

Unfortunatly that makes me think it may have arrived some time ago.
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 02, 2022, 04:43:35 pm
Thanks Max

Unfortunatly that makes me think it may have arrived some time ago.

Bee North, I do not know how fast in actuality they can spread in ideal circumstance, but I am wondering the same as you;
 "how long have they really been here."
🤷🏼‍♂️

Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 02, 2022, 04:54:30 pm
Just curious, are they testing hives Nation Wide? Or as far over as
Alice Springs, or further down towards Melbourne and Adelaide?

Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Bee North on July 02, 2022, 11:32:29 pm
Directives can vary from state to state.

QLD, where I'm from, have closed their borders to all bees, equipment and products etc from NSW....NSW hives etc are at a standstill.

They (Biosecurity QLD) have also suggested we monitor and check our hives for varroa and report any findings with instructions on the various methods etc.

In QLD you must register your hives and conduct regular inspections for pests and diseases, document findings and report listed diseases such as AFB.





Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Lesgold on July 03, 2022, 06:59:05 pm
Just arrived home from a holiday out west. Looks like our worst fears are coming to reality. With spring and swarm season only a couple of months away, I am guessing an explosion in the spread of mite numbers will occur as the bees become more active. I?m only about 400km from the outbreak so I will expect to see the little critters on my door step before summer.  While away we went past a few almond plantations. They must be concerned at the moment due to the ban on bee movement. Haven?t checked yet but I expect my hives will be full of honey. Won?t be able to extract until we get the OK to do so.
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: BeeMaster2 on July 03, 2022, 08:18:15 pm
Les,
What does extracting honey have to do with the spread of mites, especially if you are doing it on site.
I definitely would not haul supers around but mites can?t hide in honey.
Jim Altmiller
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: D C Boon on July 03, 2022, 09:44:13 pm
We're banned throughout NSW from moving or "tampering" with our hives (yes, that is actually the word they used. What it means is anyone's guess, but presumably includes extracting) except for doing varroa tests.
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 03, 2022, 11:50:12 pm
Thanks for your answer DC and welcome to Beemaster!

Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Lesgold on July 04, 2022, 12:35:37 am
Yes that is correct. Extracting honey or comb is not permitted at the moment. I am guessing that the experts want minimal impact in relation to disturbing hives. The weather has been awful over the past week and bee movement (within individual hives) has been almost non existent. I am not overly confident at the moment but we need to give the people who are running the show a chance to do their job.
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 04, 2022, 03:52:39 am
I went to the chemist today to buy some alcohol for an :" alcohol wash"  . She told me that she can't sell me Alcohol - illegal as it can be used as an explosive.

I guess Metho will do the trick?

I notice in " Scientific beekeeping" that " DAWN ULTRA" works even better. see here: https://scientificbeekeeping.com/refining-the-mite-wash-part-4-comparing-the-release-agents/

I have no idea if this detergent is available in Australia. Who makes it in the US? maybe the same company sells the same product under a different name.
Can anybody help?
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Lesgold on July 04, 2022, 04:32:04 am
Hi Max,

You should be able to use some of your 18 year old single malt. That should do a great job. Metho would also work.
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Bee North on July 04, 2022, 06:39:08 am
Ha ha...brilliant Les!!

Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 04, 2022, 07:53:29 am
I've decided on the 18 year Single malt..

19 sites now...

Varroa mite emergency order extended to include Port Stephens

3 Jul 2022

The properties at Tanilba Bay, Salt Ash and another at Mayfield East are part of 16 premises now confirmed to have varroa mite infiltrating their hives.

?Further reporting by beekeepers and investigations by NSW DPI officers, has identified three varroa mite infestations at these properties,? Dr Anderson said.

?This means that the emergency order has been updated to include the Port Stephens Peninsula within the red 10km eradication zone, where hives will be euthanised.

?NSW DPI Biosecurity experts continue to act to protect the NSW Bee Industry in conjunction with the apiary industry, Local Land Services, NSW Police, Rural Fire Service and the wider community as part of the mammoth effort to arrest the spread of the threat.?

Mr Anderson said the NSW DPI continues to ask all people who have acquired honeybees (including queen bees, nucleus hives and hives with honeybees) from within the 50km emergency notification zone of the Port of Newcastle in the last 12-months to report them to help ensure business continuity for the honeybee industry.

?Community reporting will importantly help us facilitate and free up the movement of honeybees in the rest of NSW, especially around almond pollination,? Dr Anderson said.

?The varroa mite response plan has also been updated so that while it remains necessary to euthanise honeybee colonies in the eradication zones and destroy internal hive equipment such as brood and honey frames, other equipment will only be destroyed when a risk assessment deems it necessary, with options to decontaminate external equipment such as hive boxes, pallets and straps as well as metal ware, so they can be retained by beekeepers.

?Beekeepers are reminded of the group permit that allows flood-affected honeybees and hives in current flood watch areas to be moved to a higher location on premises, or if that?s not possible, within the same emergency zone.

?After the hives have been moved as per this Permit, they cannot be moved back to the original location. Notification of any change in location must be notified by the Beekeeper Notification ? Varroa mite online form at www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/varroa,? Dr Anderson said.

Further Information:

Throughout the remainder of NSW, no beehives or honeybees may be moved.

More information is available from NSW DPI: www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/varroa

Notification of any change in location must be notified by the Beekeeper Notification ? Varroa mite online form at www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/varroa

Online form: Report honeybee acquisition

Current flood warnings that may impact on the emergency zones can be sourced at http://www.bom.gov.au/

If you are not in a flood watch affected area you must not move honeybees or hives; significant penalties may apply under the Biosecurity Act 2015 if you do.

Exotic Plant Pest Hotline on 1800 084 881 (9am to 5pm, 7 days a week).

Continue to check FAQs www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/varroa

Media contact: 02 6391 3686
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 04, 2022, 09:59:07 am
Do the officials believe there is a realistic chance of eradicating the mite at this point?
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 04, 2022, 10:24:09 am
Max I have been told windshield cleaner works well. (As poured in resolvers under the bonnet,used to squirt on the front glass of car windshields). This is sold in one gallon jugs here in America and is inexpensive.

At this point, it might not be a bad idea if everyone in Australia would check their hives regularly?

Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: The15thMember on July 04, 2022, 11:24:54 am
I went to the chemist today to buy some alcohol for an :" alcohol wash"  . She told me that she can't sell me Alcohol - illegal as it can be used as an explosive.
If you guys can't buy isopropyl (rubbing) alcohol, what do you use to clean propolis off of your hive tools?  Because that's what I use, 70% isopropyl. 
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Skeggley on July 04, 2022, 11:43:47 am
Do the officials believe there is a realistic chance of eradicating the mite at this point?
They wouldn?t be carrying out such drastic measures if they didn?t. I think they need to exhaust all options before admitting defeat.
Quote from: Ben Framed
At this point, it might not be a bad idea if everyone in Australia would check their hives regularly?
Everyone in NSW yes, I agree and would be surprised if they are not. However this may be difficult if as @D C Boon says tampering with hives is not permitted.
Anyway I wish them all the best over there.
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 04, 2022, 11:57:42 am
Thanks Skeggle, as I said in reply 22 and it still holds true. I am 'still' rooting for you... I am looking at the reality of the situation as it seems to be spreading at an 'alarming rate'; Therefore the honest question... As from the beginning, wishing you the very best and total success in this.

Phillip




Taken from reply 22:
"I will in no way try and dissuade efforts to control this pest by any method or means our friends see fit to try and deem necessary. At the end of the day they must be able to say "we did our best and we controlled the problem", or "we did our best even if the problem is not solved".

Whether a successful eradication of varroa or not; It may well be time for our friends Down Under to educate themselves about Varroa Destructor if they haven't already...
There is LOADS of GREAT information here at Beemaster for your convenience concerning 'every conceivable aspect' of Varroa; From research papers posted from all over the world concerning every aspect of varroa, including treatment methods along with the breakdown of treating tools. The Search engine at the top of the page, might be a best friend to our friends from DownUnder at this time, win, lose, or draw..."
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 04, 2022, 12:10:59 pm
Quote from: Ben Framed
At this point, it might not be a bad idea if everyone in Australia would check their hives regularly?

Quoting Skeggley
"Everyone in NSW yes, I agree and would be surprised if they are not. However this may be difficult if as @D C Boon says tampering with hives is not permitted.
Anyway I wish them all the best over there."


I do too.. I am on the outside looking in. I am a simple hobby beekeeper in America, feeling pain for my beekeeping friends in Australia. I despise having to deal with varroa and do not want y'all to have to deal with it either.
My thinking was it might be a good idea to check hives Nationwide to get a clear picture and an accurate assessment of the actuality of the depth of the problem, giving a clear point of view as where to go from there.  Just my little input if effort of trying to help..

Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: NigelP on July 04, 2022, 12:39:29 pm
Not sure if this would come in the brief of "tampering"....but with open mesh floors just stick a tray underneath and pull it out 24-48 hours later. Varroa are quite obvious, red and round like a horseshoe crab. The only thing they can really be mistaken for is braula, but that is more insect looking.
It's not a good way of assessing levels of infection, but gives a rough and ready indication.

Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 04, 2022, 06:48:23 pm
"If you guys can't buy isopropyl (rubbing) alcohol, what do you use to clean propolis off of your hive tools?  Because that's what I use, 70% isopropyl. "

We generally use 18 year old Single Malt. :grin:
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 04, 2022, 06:49:28 pm
Do the officials believe there is a realistic chance of eradicating the mite at this point?

Yes, they are still positive.
I understand that all the 19 cases are connected.
I try to stay positive
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 04, 2022, 06:53:22 pm
Thanks Skeggle, as I said in reply 22 and it still holds true. I am 'still' rooting for you... I am looking at the reality of the situation as it seems to be spreading at an 'alarming rate'; Therefore the honest question... As from the beginning, wishing you the very best and total success in this.

Phillip

Phillip - I'm sure I'm not the only one her in Australia who has a laugh each time you in the US are " rooting" for us.
I'm lucky the police is not turning up and cnfiscating my computer!
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 04, 2022, 06:58:45 pm
I understand that " tampering" does NOT include doing an alcohol wash.
Also, as part of NSW is flodded ( again) beekeepers are allowed to move hives to higher ground on the same property.

The weather has turned quite nasty over the weekend ( it is Tuesday here now)

There is no way I could open a hive right now but I was able to do a check in one of my yards while the sun was shining.

I'm not in anaffected area ( not yet, anyway, and hoping for the best) but I have always done regular checks. I sell nuc's!
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 04, 2022, 07:02:52 pm
The report below does give a good indication of the situation regarding the weather.

On the map note " Newcastle" - this is the EPI center for Varroa at this point.

I'm North, off the map. It is raining here too. No floods this time...

https://www.weatherzone.com.au/news/windsors-worst-flood-since-1978/671286
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 04, 2022, 08:13:34 pm
"Phillip - I'm sure I'm not the only one her in Australia who has a laugh each time you in the US are " rooting" for us.
I'm lucky the police is not turning up and cnfiscating my computer!"



Max - When I look at the map last map posted by you in reply 48; www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/varroa showing the sites of positive detection, I see the detection zones are as far away from one another as 200 plus miles. I see no humor here.

Phillip


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Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Skeggley on July 04, 2022, 09:47:07 pm
I think Phil, that it?s the differing definition of the term ?rooting? is where the laughing comes from.  :wink:

The inland zone screams commercial migratory beekeeper. Here in the West it will be the migratory beekeeper that brings SHB into the SW, and it?s been tried too I might add, the old cutting off the nose in spite of the face I?m afraid. For the varroa to migrate it will be due to the commercial migratory beekeepers actions.
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 04, 2022, 09:57:17 pm
Ah ok! lol I get it now!   :cheesy: Thanks Skeggly I am Rooting for you is a Southern Country saying here in my part of America meaning I am on your side and you have my support lol 
Hang in there friends, I am still (rooting for you)!
😂



Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: The15thMember on July 04, 2022, 11:21:57 pm
"If you guys can't buy isopropyl (rubbing) alcohol, what do you use to clean propolis off of your hive tools?  Because that's what I use, 70% isopropyl. "

We generally use 18 year old Single Malt. :grin:
:cheesy:  I am genuinely curious.   
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 05, 2022, 01:22:36 am
Thanks, Phil, for still r.....g for us. Glad you got the energy. Skeggley got it.

Varroa is indeed  far too serious for a laugh.

I'm just realising that nobody has  the simple gear to make up the gadgets to do an alcohol wash. I try to find # 8 ( I think) mesh...

I got the OK from beeinspector to use Metho  ....my Single Malt should be safe for now.

Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 05, 2022, 01:50:36 am
Latest in
Narrabri - big jump.

I'm also concerned that they are talking about lifting some restrictions.

2000 hives - one mite...sounds like nothing but this is all it takes

https://members.qbabees.org.au/resources/Documents/AHBIC%20Varroa%20incursion%20update%206.pdf
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 05, 2022, 05:32:52 am
Thanks, Phil, for still r.....g for us. Glad you got the energy. Skeggley got it.

Varroa is indeed  far too serious for a laugh.

I'm just realising that nobody has  the simple gear to make up the gadgets to do an alcohol wash. I try to find # 8 ( I think) mesh...

I got the OK from beeinspector to use Metho  ....my Single Malt should be safe for now.



Max now that you posted my word as  r.....g I think I finally, fully understand. In Australia that is seen as a vulgar expression? If so please accept My humble apology. I meant it as working for something good. Now Im really embraced.
:oops:
Yikes Now I understand why you said the police may come and take your computer! I apologize to each of you. I never meant anything out of the way, vulgar or offensive, but have been sincerely sympathetic in a moral and good way as described in Webster below. 

Phillip

Merriam Webster  American Dictionary
rooted for; rooting for; roots for
Definition of root for
: to express or show support for (a person, a team, etc.) : to hope for the success of (someone or something)
They always root for the home team.
Good luck on your upcoming show. Remember that we're all rooting for you.
rooting
: to encourage a team or contestant by cheering or applauding enthusiastically. to lend moral support: The whole group will be rooting for him.
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 05, 2022, 06:04:18 am
Quote:
Max2
"I'm just realising that nobody has  the simple gear to make up the gadgets to do an alcohol wash. I try to find # 8 ( I think) mesh...

I got the OK from beeinspector to use Metho  ....my Single Malt should be safe for now."


Max I did not think of that. Looking back, I had trouble finding number 8 here a few years ago. I finally found it in an old family owned hardware store. (No telling how many years the stuff had been sitting on the shelves).

Phillip


Worker bees can fit through #7 if there is a bent wire.  Workers can fit through #6 but it's a squeeze and they can't get pollen through it.  Workers can fit through #5 and it's a squeeze but they can get about half their pollen through it.  Workers and drones can fit through #4.  Some workers will lose pollen just because it caught and popped out, but the won't lose much.
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 05, 2022, 07:40:26 pm
Phillip wrote:
Max now that you posted my word as  r.....g I think I finally, fully understand. In Australia that is seen as a vulgar expression? If so please accept My humble apology. I meant it as working for something good. Now Im really embraced.
:oops:
Yikes Now I understand why you said the police may come and take your computer! I apologize to each of you. I never meant anything out of the way, vulgar or offensive, but have been sincerely sympathetic in a moral and good way as described in Webster below.

Phillip

No problem and no need to apologiese.
We all think we speak 'English" but it is a different "English"

We in Australia verymuch appreacite the support from our US ( and other) beekeeping friends .

Looks like the sun will shine  agin by tommorrow.
We had ther second lowest daytime temperature in recorded history here yesterday - around 13 C!

No bees to be seen
keep well

max
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 05, 2022, 11:07:47 pm
Varroa - on imported queens?

https://kangaroocourtofaustralia.com/2022/07/06/australias-food-security-is-under-attack-from-varroa-mites-that-kill-bees-was-it-an-accident-or-was-it-from-illegal-importation-of-bees/
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 06, 2022, 12:44:30 am
277 000 hives needed for Almonds in a month -New rules

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-06/varroa-mite-outbreak-prompts-new-sunraysia-bee-restrictions/101212750
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 06, 2022, 11:03:07 am
Quote:
Max2
"I'm just realising that nobody has  the simple gear to make up the gadgets to do an alcohol wash. I try to find # 8 ( I think) mesh...

I got the OK from beeinspector to use Metho  ....my Single Malt should be safe for now."


Max I did not think of that. Looking back, I had trouble finding number 8 here a few years ago. I finally found it in an old family owned hardware store. (No telling how many years the stuff had been sitting on the shelves).

Phillip


Worker bees can fit through #7 if there is a bent wire.  Workers can fit through #6 but it's a squeeze and they can't get pollen through it.  Workers can fit through #5 and it's a squeeze but they can get about half their pollen through it.  Workers and drones can fit through #4.  Some workers will lose pollen just because it caught and popped out, but the won't lose much.


Max another way to check for varroa is the sugar roll method. Though I personally have little confidence in the accuracy of this method for bee management, in your countries case of emergency, even if one mite were to drop the answer would be answered for a hive, as well as the area the hive is located in. I am not recommending this however, just food for thought. It is my opinion that the alcohol wash is the way to go in such critical times as yours..

Phillip


Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 06, 2022, 06:28:31 pm
Victoria - the state past NSW has now extra conditions:
The basis of tonight's email is to provide an update to our members who are seeking additional information on some of the requirements now in place for the migration of hives to the almond growing regions in Victoria.



The following information has been taken directly from the Agriculture Victoria website (DAF equivalent in Victoria).

Victorian Control Area
An Order declaring Victoria as a Control Area is now in place prohibiting the movement of bees, beehives, beekeeping equipment and bee products into and within Victoria.

Anyone seeking to move bees, hives, used beekeeping equipment and bee products, including pollen and honeycomb into Victoria, from New South Wales, or that which have been in NSW at any time after 1 January 2022 and have since moved to another State or Territory, must obtain a permit. Movement restrictions will also apply to any other State or Territory if Varroa mite is declared present.

This does not include processed honey and wax and new beekeeping tools and equipment which can be transported within Victoria and from interstate.

In addition, anyone seeking to move bees, beehives, beekeeping equipment and bee products into Victoria?s Sunraysia region, from within Victoria or from another state, must obtain a permit. This measure has been put in place ahead of Victoria?s almond pollination season. This applies to all Victorian and interstate beekeepers.

No permits will be granted for applications seeking movement from NSW while the standstill is in place, in line with NSW emergency orders. This also applies to Victorian beekeepers seeking re-entry to Victoria.

Applications from New South Wales will be assessed once the current standstill in NSW has lifted.

This Order has been made to prevent the exotic Varroa mite from coming into Victoria from NSW. Currently Victoria remains free from Varroa mite.

To learn more about the requirements and relevant permits to enter Victoria please visit:

https://agriculture.vic.gov.au/biosecurity/pest-insects-and-mites/priority-pest-insects-and-mites/varroa-mite-of-honey-bees/varroa-mite-current-situation

Please also note, given the current standstill (Movement Control Order) in NSW, movement from other states into NSW is strictly prohibited.

Information and updates on when the standstill in NSW may be lifted will be communicated to our members and contacts as a priority.

As a final update, similar to our efforts during the COVID-19 pandemic, a national task force has again been mobilised to manage the immediate challenges of industry to coordinate and control the movement of hives for pollination events across the country.

The QBA Management team have asked that I continue to represent the QBA and greater QLD  industry given my past involvement and expertise in the exercise to see bees delivered to pollination during the uncertainty of COVID. The QBA is supported in the meeting by Biosecurity Queensland and an expert from Transport and Main Roads who provided assistance during the COVID-19 border closures.

The task force includes representation at a high level from AHBIC, state bodies, and state agencies and a broker, all working together towards a common goal. The group has held 3 meetings over the past 12 days with much progress being made as a result of each meeting. We hope to be in a position in the near future to provide some clarity to Queensland based apiarists who provide pollination services to our dependent industry partners.

On behalf of the QBA Management team I would like to express our sincere appreciation for the continued support we've received through the significant volume of calls and emails.

Thank you for your support as we too increase commitment towards the national effort to contain and eradicate varroa.

Kind regards,





Jo Martin

QBA State Secretary
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 08, 2022, 04:28:26 am
Number of invested premises 34.

https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?hl=en#inbox/FMfcgzGpGnNrtDkDmLZWvllkRjVwqjfj
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 09, 2022, 08:09:39 am
Compensation for beekeepers:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-09/18m-packaged-for-varroa-mite-impacted-beekeepers/101224222
Title: Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 09, 2022, 09:05:27 pm
Thanks, Phil, for still r.....g for us. Glad you got the energy. Skeggley got it.

Varroa is indeed  far too serious for a laugh.

I'm just realising that nobody has  the simple gear to make up the gadgets to do an alcohol wash. I try to find # 8 ( I think) mesh...

I got the OK from beeinspector to use Metho  ....my Single Malt should be safe for now.


Max this is an old Thread but maybe it will help..  Using the search bar provided at the top of the page look up: "Where do you get hardware cloth in Aust"

Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 10, 2022, 01:25:36 am
NSW bees to Vic?
I wonder what the full story is?

JUL 9, 2022 ?

In a shocking turn of events NSW commercials beekeepers will be able to get a permit to cross into Victoria Sunraysia district to pollinate Almonds.

Intense lobbying from the billion dollar Almond industry and commercial beekeepers represented by AHBIC who have been told they will not be compensated for missed pollination income they rely upon.


While they burn billions of bees in Newcastle and apply a poisoning program that will kill wild and indigenous bees it beggars belief they will allow the potential spread of the mite to Victoria.

After leaving the Almond?s potentially infected hives will be dispersed throughout NSW and Victoria.

I am sad thinking of those poor NSW beekeepers whose hives have been destroyed may will be all in vain.

Thinking of all the volunteer workers, beekeepers and DPI staff that are trying to contain the infestation only to have a doggy permit system hurt the potential of Australia remaining Varroa free.

We need to stop all hive movement in NSW until Varroa is contained and I am attempting to get a federal court injunction to make certain no hives are moved into Victoria from NSW until we are certain Varroa Mite is contained and at least until 1 January 2023.

Please help me raise funds to protect Australian bees and the Australia?s food industry and Australia?s food security and 460000 beekeepers against varroa mite. I want instruct lawyer Michael Morehead to commence proceedings to put an injunction on the movement of hives in NSW until we know that varroa mite has been contained or irradiated.

 

Any extra funds raised will be dispersed amongst beekeepers in the Newcastle region that have lost their apiaries and may be waiting a long time for compensation.

Please Donate

https://gofund.me/9d4bb7d6
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Bee North on July 10, 2022, 06:34:43 am
NSW bees to Vic?

Max..I cant find any information on this. Can you please provide a link or let us know where the article is? That's shocking news! Surely this cannot happen.

On a positive note, I did see that State and Federal governments are reimbursing both hobby and commercial beeks for their losses putting 18 Million up for compensation.

Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 10, 2022, 07:54:11 am
This came from Simon Mulvany:
JUL 9, 2022 ?

In a shocking turn of events NSW commercials beekeepers will be able to get a permit to cross into Victoria Sunraysia district to pollinate Almonds.

I don't kniow anything more.

Yes, good to see small beekeepers also getting  some payment

I had a look for # 8 mesh - no luck so far.
I'm thinking about bringing in some of the shakers.

I also noticed that the " Alcohol wash" is now the " Ethanol Wash" which would be the " Metho Wash" here in OZ!

Take it out of the fridge, mate!

I post somethinbg more positive on another post...

Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 10, 2022, 08:21:49 am
Max, our friend Oldbeavo is from Nth Victoria and is a pollinator. Is their enough beekeepers such as Oldbeavo as well as beekeepers from other parts of Australia to cover the emergency needs for pollination of Almonds this one season, without hives being brought from NSW?  If small hobby beekeepers chimed in with a few hives each, volunteering the service of those hives for the effort of the cause, could there be enough to find a way around this, this one season? No doubt, in appreciation, the Almond Industry would reward the owners of these volunteered hives generously... I realize their is a no move ordinance for your country, but wouldn't this be a better alternative than what is being planned?

(Kind of like the candle burning effect of one candle multiplied by One Hundred Thousand, each together making a bright light, as described just yesterday: by Former Governor of Arkansas Mike Huckabee; Dad of Sara Sanders Huckabee, former Press Secretary for Donald Trump for 3 1/2 years, on the topic). "Mike Huckabee Opens With Reflections of Expo 72"

Phillip

Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 10, 2022, 06:37:54 pm
Hi Phillip,

A lot of hives would generally be taken from Queensland to the Almonds.
It is a long way and they have to travel via NSW.

The reason hives are taken for pollination from the North  is simple - it is much warmer here and we can build up hives.

Vitoria is much colder and I would assume it would be very difficult to get hives ready.

The other issue is numbers - very much like in the US were such a high number of hives are required for Almonds.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Lesgold on July 10, 2022, 06:40:34 pm
Looks like we can now inspect hives, extract honey etc (with some restrictions in place) With swarming season only a couple of months away, the timeline for potentially eradicating this outbreak is quite short. It would be an amazing effort if authorities can eliminate this pest but my heart and head are seeing this situation differently.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 10, 2022, 06:48:32 pm
LESGOLD - I'm in Qld - no restrictions here.

Are you in NSW?

max
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Lesgold on July 10, 2022, 06:57:19 pm
Yes Max. I?m on the South Coast at Batemans Bay.  I?m only about 400km from the outbreaks.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 10, 2022, 08:12:05 pm
A worry.
I spend a lot of time researching Varroa - always did have an interest and have been breeding Hygenic Queens for years. I also have 20 queens on order - from a NSW breeder to keep my genetics in good order. Not sure if I will be able to bring them up - probably best not to.Which means I will be spending more time breeding queens

As far as I know I have two other hives within close range but this does not make it safe.

My brother in law lives near Nowra.

Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Skeggley on July 10, 2022, 09:52:20 pm
https://scientificbeekeeping.com/the-varroa-incursion-in-australia-4-july-2022/
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 11, 2022, 04:33:11 am
" I made the point that if they were not willing to take strong actions ? including using fipronil bait stations to kill feral colonies ? that their chances of eradication would be zero.
Although I have only had indirect communication with the DPI during this incursion, I am encouraged that they are indeed preparing to perform such baiting.
The commercial beekeepers in the country are well aware that the possibility of complete eradication are slim, but it?s clear that the agency, based upon lack of detections outside the containment zone, feels that they still have a fighting chance."

I have read someweher that they are using fibronil baits.

Can't find it.

I do hope that we have a " figthing chance"
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 12, 2022, 08:25:36 am
No new dedections today!!

https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?hl=en#inbox/FMfcgzGpGwhzgRXwvzLgMsMwwfWRngrQ
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Lesgold on July 12, 2022, 08:47:44 pm
That?s encouraging Max. Can?t read your link but that?s OK.  This outbreak has made me rethink and evaluate what I?m doing and why. At this point in time I?m thinking of selling most of my hives in the spring and down sizing to about 6 hives. The idea of an increasing work load and potentially having to use chemical treatments to control a pest saddens me. I will rely on this forum for advice and methods over the next year or so if this problem takes hold.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 13, 2022, 04:34:30 am
Hi Les,
I'm going to wait a while before I make any decisions. Early days but I have heard other beekeepers mentioning retirement
I have a few mates here who keep bees  and we should be able to help each other.

I'm making frames and boxes at the moment - quite a few 1/2 boxes as I'm not able to lift 10frame , FD supers full of honey. Maybe the way to go - 1/2 supers.
Also thinking about making some foundation but not sure where to buy the moulds.
Interseting You Tube here with lots of Vies.
You may like it :grin:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fjq-ilNd39M
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Lesgold on July 13, 2022, 07:41:31 am
Ha ha. That was my very first YouTube clip. I made a lot of foundation using that technique. Saved me a fair bit of money early on.  I?ll make my decisions early in the spring after the swarming period. Should know by then as to what?s happening.


Cheers

Les
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Bee North on July 13, 2022, 06:40:10 pm
For QLD.

The following information I just received from my beekeeping club:

Survey 123. A new app just released for reporting varroa incursions as well as negative test results directly to Biosecurity QLD. The survey to report within the app is Bee 123.
You must download Microsoft Teams software first deforest down loading the app survey 123.
The app allows hive data collection from all registered beekeepers across QLD, early detection and tracing...like having thousands of trap hives across the entire state.

I see this as a very cost effective and positive move towards controlling this incursion and others moving forward. Hopefully having an app to report any findings encourages testing too. I would like to see all states take this up.

Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 13, 2022, 07:09:21 pm
Yes, I got the message too and a easier follow up.
The problem is that so many Australian Beekeepers don't use e-mail or other communication technology - I don't own a mobile, simply as we have no reception here.

The avearage age of beekeepers here is above 60 - not the group which is glued to phones.
Also, I can't buy # 8 screen material so far...or the cups for a sugar shake or Alcohol wash.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 13, 2022, 10:31:55 pm
> Also, I can't buy # 8 screen material so far...or the cups for a sugar shake or Alcohol wash.

Max as I reported earlier I had a hard time finding #8 locally here in America when I was seeking it. I do not know if the following suggestion will work but I see no reasons why it won?t. Here in America 1/4 inch Hardware Cloth is readily available in most hardware stores included major box chains such as The Home Depot and Lowes. Do you have access to 1/4 inch?

If so, what  if we were to use two layers of 1/4 inch  ?lapped together in a cross pattern or hatch pattern? This should allow the mites to pass through to the desired inspection side of our tester, while restraining donor bees in the wash side from passing through, realizing our desired motive?

Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Lesgold on July 14, 2022, 12:29:36 am
Hi Guys.

A few years ago I made a couple of top bar hives. I had the same problem in finding a small gauge mesh. In the end I found this stuff :

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It?s actually a brand of gutter guard that I found at a local hardware store. It?s made from aluminium and comes in at about 7 segments to the inch. As you can see, the spaces are not square and the thickness of each aluminium section is slightly thicker than what you would see on hardware cloth. The main point is that bees did not get through it. It can be purchased in rolls up to about 250mm wide. Max, if you want a piece, PM me with your address and I?ll post a piece to you.

Cheers

Les
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 14, 2022, 01:14:13 am
Thanks, Les and Phillip,
I'm going to town ( a much bigger town then our village!) and will check these out first.

Good idea about the gutter guard. I may have some hiding in the shed

I will also check if I can find a copy of " Honey Flora of Qld" in the second hand bookshop - supposed to be the biggest one in Qld
max
( Les, please check your PM)
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 14, 2022, 02:19:19 am
Live Webinar - Tonight ( Australian time)

https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?hl=en#inbox/FMfcgzGpGwlRQhHZhkNkcdhlwQRBMwxH
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 14, 2022, 07:52:30 am
Les, you have the answer! 

Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Skeggley on July 14, 2022, 08:31:09 am
https://www.gofundme.com/f/stop-varroa-mite-spreading-in-australia?member=20521647&sharetype=teams&utm_campaign=p_na+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customer

https://www.change.org/p/imported-honey-must-be-banned-or-labelled-with-country-of-origin-eg-china-argentina/u/30745158?cs_tk=AjbadPi-S_mJIReV2GIAAXicyyvNyQEABF8BvNPz_aW0k7XeYjzYoRFC36o%3D&utm_campaign=84ac58c32d634250855ccb7179f8f2b5&utm_content=initial_v0_6_0&utm_medium=email&utm_source=petition_update&utm_term=cs
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 14, 2022, 09:09:52 am

https://www.gofundme.com/f/stop-varroa-mite-spreading-in-australia?member=20521647&sharetype=teams&utm_campaign=p_na+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customer

https://www.change.org/p/imported-honey-must-be-banned-or-labelled-with-country-of-origin-eg-china-argentina/u/30745158?cs_tk=AjbadPi-S_mJIReV2GIAAXicyyvNyQEABF8BvNPz_aW0k7XeYjzYoRFC36o%3D&utm_campaign=84ac58c32d634250855ccb7179f8f2b5&utm_content=initial_v0_6_0&utm_medium=email&utm_source=petition_update&utm_term=cs

Very compelling articles Skeggley. Thanks for posting.  It seems the battle with Varroa Destructor is not the only battle being fought; But the legal battle of what to do, or what not to do next as well.

Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: BeeMaster2 on July 14, 2022, 10:42:52 am
This is beyond belief. If you have enough money you can do anything you want. The whole country is worried about these mites spreading, burning hives in large numbers and then they allow bees from an infected area mix with 2/3s of the country?s bees. On top of that, we already know from experience here that every disease that goes to our almonds gets spread all across the US.
Insanity.
Jim Altmiller
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Skeggley on July 15, 2022, 01:38:26 am
Yeah watching from the other side of the country it does make me scratch my head, typical short term thinking. Here on the West Coast raw honey and used equipment has been banned for years, 2 roads in has its benefits.
Due to the floods over East veggie prices have shot through the roof with lettuce heads selling for such a high price cabbage is being mixed in, even substituted. No such problem here in the West however our fast foods chains are under instructions from their management to do the same even though lettuce is cheaper than cabbage in the supermarket
 :cheesy: Sigh, it'd be sad if it wasn't so ridiculous.
There's now foot and mouth disease in one of most popular holiday destination, Indonesia's Bali, and the advice is to leave your thongs there. :cheesy: (That's flip flop footwear btw.) Once again, sigh.
Oh my was that a rant? Sorry about that.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 15, 2022, 01:51:09 am
"Oh my was that a rant? Sorry about that."



We understand Skaggley. No sorry necessary. We all have to let the steam off every now and then, let it blow even as Old Faithful!!!  :cheesy:

Phillip




      "Old Faithful"

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Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 15, 2022, 07:38:39 am
Qld Beekeepers allowed to Almonds

This has just come in: https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?hl=en#inbox/FMfcgzGpGwmbclpRwdmRCNhpFMdwxqjz
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 16, 2022, 03:27:16 am
Some NSW Beekeepersallowed to move hives.

This looks high risk and premature to me

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-16/nsw-beekeepers-be-able-to-move-their-hives-varroa-mite/101244458
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 18, 2022, 04:11:42 am
The number of sites are increasing but they have not spread far past the original site ( with the one, related site)

https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?hl=en#inbox/FMfcgzGpGwptvQJQRBSVTJVdkBwFNpMS

What worried me is that soon beekeepers will start to move hives for pollination...
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: BeeMaster2 on July 18, 2022, 06:44:26 am
Max,
All I get is a link to gmail advertisement and the only thing that I can do is login or sign up for gmail.
Does anyone else get anything else. If not, we need to remove this and put in a proper link.
Jim Altmiller
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 18, 2022, 06:46:29 am
Max,
All I get is a link to gmail advertisement and the only thing that I can do is login or sign up for gmail.
Does anyone else get anything else. If not, we need to remove this and put in a proper link.
Jim Altmiller

Yes Jim I am getting the same results.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: NigelP on July 18, 2022, 07:21:13 am
Me too.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Skeggley on July 18, 2022, 07:41:52 am
Just to keep everyone in the loop.

https://www.change.org/p/imported-honey-must-be-banned-or-labelled-with-country-of-origin-eg-china-argentina/u/30751440

Spoke too soon?

https://www.change.org/p/imported-honey-must-be-banned-or-labelled-with-country-of-origin-eg-china-argentina/u/30755678

:Eye roll:
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Garigal on July 18, 2022, 09:42:46 am
The NSW DPI site is the best way to keep track of what's happening:

https://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/emergencies/biosecurity/current-situation/varroa-mite-emergency-response

Last update was Sunday evening 17/7.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 18, 2022, 03:07:04 pm
Max,
All I get is a link to gmail advertisement and the only thing that I can do is login or sign up for gmail.
Does anyone else get anything else. If not, we need to remove this and put in a proper link.
Jim Altmiller

Sorry about this.
I have no idea why the links don't work..
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 18, 2022, 09:11:20 pm
Max,
All I get is a link to gmail advertisement and the only thing that I can do is login or sign up for gmail.
Does anyone else get anything else. If not, we need to remove this and put in a proper link.
Jim Altmiller

Sorry about this.
I have no idea why the links don't work..

I sent a PM to you Max.

Thanks,
Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 20, 2022, 01:51:16 am
" No new dedections for a few days" - this is positive.

Also:


- Applications will open tomorrow for registered commercial beekeepers to request to move hives within the low risk general biosecurity zones in NSW.

- You can start alcohol washes now, for more information view the DPI website at www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/varroa.

- 🐝 There have been no new infected premises for a couple of days. Number of infested premises remains at 40.


- 🐝Activity in eradication zones
Our effort and people are currently working on surveillance activities around the edges of red eradication zones, to help us define the outer limits of where Varroa mite is.
This information then feeds in to our response activities, where our aim remains to eradicate Varroa mite.
We'll update beekeepers and the community on our response activities ongoing.



Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 20, 2022, 05:28:23 am
"Ag minister is confident Varroa can be eliminated"..

New South Wales Agriculture Minister Dugald Saunders is confident that authorities can eliminate the varroa mite from the state, despite relaxing a lockdown on the movement of beehives in low-risk areas.

Key points:


- Nearly 2,000 beehives have been destroyed by state authorities since the detection of Varroa destructor
New South Wales Agriculture Minister Dugald Saunders says the elimination strategy is ongoing. Currently, hives outside of varroa mite biosecurity zones can be moved with a permit

- Varroa destructor was first detected in surveillance hives in the port of Newcastle late last month and has now been found at  40 properties across New South Wales, including near Narrabri, 400 kilometres from the original site.

- The mite weakens and kills European honey bee colonies, which are vital to the honey and farming industries.

- Speaking to ABC's 7.30, Mr Saunders said the government was embarking on an elimination strategy.
  "We believe we can eradicate the mite and, if we can do that then that's a big tick," he said. "Ongoing, that's going to continue                              to be the plan, but you never say never."

- Varroa destructor has never taken hold in Australia until now, but was intercepted at a Victorian port in 2018.

- A different type of mite, Varroa jacobsoni, was found in Townsville three separate times previously but was eradicated each time.





Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Michael Bush on July 20, 2022, 10:08:11 am
>we already know from experience here that every disease that goes to our almonds gets spread all across the US.

Like in a matter of days as opposed to years.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 20, 2022, 11:12:42 am

- Nearly 2,000 beehives have been destroyed by state authorities since the detection of Varroa destructor
New South Wales Agriculture Minister Dugald Saunders says the elimination strategy is ongoing. Currently, hives outside of varroa mite biosecurity zones can be moved with a permit


Any news to report concerning the success, or 'percentage' of success, in the efforts of eradicating feral hives in the infected areas? I still believe the pendulum of 'success or failure' may hinge or swing, by the results of 'this' critical 'factor' in this exasperating, yet noble endeavor.

Phillip





Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 20, 2022, 05:14:04 pm
"If they find mites in the hives at the almond farms"

Good point Jim. Lets hope they don't find any varroa in the Almonds. If they do not, such a report will be a wonderful sign! The well informed officials making these decisions must be loosing a lot of seep, while sweating bullets, trying to weight and juggle the facts of the situation while seeking an outcome that will turn out positive for the good of all. What a stressful time of tribulation for these folks... 

Our friend OldBeaveo and Karen may be in the Almonds. The good news is he is not located in NSW if I remember correctly. I feel for him and the other good pollinators who are probably sitting on pins and needles at this point, not knowing what the fate and future will be concerning Varroa Destructor. That goes for all of Australias" Beekeepers. They need our prayers and moral support..

Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Bee North on July 20, 2022, 05:23:01 pm
Thanks Phillip.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 20, 2022, 05:29:15 pm
Your Welcome Bee North.  👍🏻

Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Garigal on July 20, 2022, 10:22:55 pm
Here's a fairly unbiased and factual account of the situation from last nights edition of 7:30 on our ABC (national broadcaster).

https://www.abc.net.au/7.30/the-race-to-save-australia%E2%80%99s-bee-industry/13981824?jwsource=cl
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 22, 2022, 07:09:11 am
On the outside looking in, I see at least a couple of things 'that concern me' in this report.

At 3:23 Anna Scoaby shows her remaining hives as she explains that at least 30 of her infested hives have been destroyed. My concern here is still one of my original concerns mentioned in my Reply #30 July 01, 2022,

"If all domesticated managed hives are completely destroyed in the kill zones, what will become of the bees which may have missed the eradication process while out forging, which may host live varroa? Will they beg into unknown feral hives? The same question for eradicated hives on the outer limits of the kill zone. What will become of the forging bees which no longer have a home? Can they simply find their way to a hive 'outside' of the eradication zone, or an unknown feral hive 'outside or inside' the kill zone? Will they beg into a nearby hive, bringing with them the varroa they may have in their possession, (on their person)?"

Also Darren Minter, an almond producer, says at 4:23 "If it does get out; If this varroa mite enters into the whole bee industry, it will take out 80 to 90 percent of our bees." Though his great concern is rightfully expressed, though education his words do not have to be written in stone or come to pass if Australians will educate themselves 'individually' and act on that education. With education this does not have to be the case. TheHoneyPump from my Countrys' neighboring Canada and a member here, has written a great paper explaining much about this mite. I highly recommend investigating Mr HoneyPumps paper, along with many other topics which some of which include 'sources of research' concerning Varroa Destructor by a variety of Beemasters' Members .

Its true we beekeepers in America lost great numbers of our bees when varroa was introduced to my Country and the future looked gloomy; 'until we became educated' about this dreaded pest. High numbers of hives were lost for the same accurate reasons of Mr Minters' rightful concerns such as spreading of viruses etc.

Learning how to deal with these mites from shared lessons learned from other countries, along with research from other countries, (countries already experiencing Varroa before its arrival in America), 'was a tremendous leg up for us here in America'. This valuable information along with conducting our own research turned things around. Therefore with education Mr Minters' forecast does not have to come to pass. Again quoting Mr Minter; "If varroa is not contained".

I wish to encourage our beekeeping friends DownUnder.  The results do not have to be as Mr Minter fears... Again education and putting that education into effect by each individual beekeeper is the key to success in my opinion. Lets continue hoping the toothpaste is not out of the tube. And the effort and hard work to stop varroa in Australia will bare fruit of success!

Phillip





 
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 22, 2022, 07:30:00 am
Notice the expansion of infestation in the map below, which was shown in the news clip provided by Garigal July 20 (reply 121) as compared to the map shown on July 4 in Reply 61.

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Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 22, 2022, 07:31:23 am
Infestation map July 4

Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Garigal on July 22, 2022, 07:50:42 am
Notice the expansion of infestation in the map below, which was shown in the news clip provided by Garigal July 20 (reply 121) as compared to the map shown on July 4 in Reply 61.

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Yes the map expanded rapidly but has been relatively stable for a week or so, there was a flurry of testing activity followed by cooler and quite wet weather again with a possibility of another four months of La Nina.

Euthanising of hives was suspended while they established the edges of the incursion and today's update was that they are shifting back to the eradication program, they released the info on Facebook and haven't been consistent on where they release informantion unfortunately.

Today's update

🐝 There has been an additional detection within the current Eradication Zone (red zone).

🐝 The Biosecurity Emergency Group Permit and Hive Movement Declaration form is in place to allow the movement of bees in the General Biosecurity Zone (blue zone) for critical pollination services for registered commercial beekeepers. See www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/varroa

🐝Activity in eradication zones
We have conducted extensive surveillance at the edges of the emergency zones to establish the limits of the current infestation and will now reprioritise our efforts within the red zones to continue the euthanasia of infected hives.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Michael Bush on July 22, 2022, 12:48:28 pm
I wish Australia the best of luck.  But eradication has been tried everywhere Varroa showed up and it has never worked.  It only takes one Varroa to spread eventually to everywhere.  They don't even need two...
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 22, 2022, 08:41:29 pm
Michael wrote: " eradication has been tried everywhere Varroa showed up and it has never worked"

Has anybody writen up what beekeeprs did in the US or Canada when Varroa arrived? Can we do better?

I sense a will here in Australia to learn and not to repeat mistakes which were made, even Governments are spending good money to stop the invasion.

We are also dealing with Foot and Mouth, Lumpy Skin..in our neighbour countries ( not on bees..)

Biosecurity has been busy.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Lesgold on July 24, 2022, 06:30:23 pm
No reported outbreaks outside the red zones in the past week. The focus will now return to those areas. Interesting few weeks coming up. The outbreak areas on the coast have a temperate climate. With spring and swarming season only a month away, the timeframe for eradication is reducing rapidly.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 25, 2022, 02:19:11 am
Almond Growers face Beehive shortage

Up to 16,000 registered Victorian beehives that were stranded in southern New South Wales due to the varroa mite outbreak can now be returned home.
Key points:


    North-west Victoria's almond industry relies on beehives from multiple states to help with pollination
    Some Victorian hives currently in southern NSW will now be allowed to return home
    The industry says it will still be short 65,000 hives this season

- Agriculture Victoria announced the change late on Friday, enabling more beehives to re-enter the state to help with almond pollination.

- Almond trees in north-west Victoria are about to bloom, and usually hives from across Victoria, New South Wales and Queensland are used for pollination.

- Victoria's Chief Plant Health Officer, Rosa Crnov, said beekeepers needed to apply for a permit and test their hives before and after moving them to ensure they were free of the destructive pest.

- Dr Crnov said the honey bees were low risk because they had been quiet over winter, not gathering honey and not pollinating.

"We also have a level of comfort with them in the fact that they're registered with Agriculture Victoria so we have ready access to all the records and testing regime on file," she said.

Last month, a bee parasite called varroa destructor was found in sentinel hives at the Port of Newcastle.
New South Wales authorities have been working to eradicate the mite, which has since been found at 41 premises.




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Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 25, 2022, 07:20:12 am
Infestation Map Update:  July 24, 2022



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Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 25, 2022, 07:40:28 am
Some 200 hives have been moved to Almonds

New research gives some hope - for the future

It has been just over a month now since varroa mite was detected in sentinel hives at the Port of Newcastle, with millions of bees in emergency zones since euthanased.
Key points:

    Hive movement is now underway in and through NSW's blue zone
    Surveillance and euthanasia of infected hives in the red zones have ramped up
    Researchers hope to develop a varroa mite pesticide safe for honey bees

While authorities in New South Wales remain confident the deadly parasite can be eradicated, beekeepers could soon have a new tool to help in their fight against future outbreaks.

Australian researchers are hoping to develop a world-first hormone-based pesticide, safe for honey bees but fatal to varroa mite, and another destructive pest, the small hive beetle.

The University of Sydney research project has been underway for a year, but it could be two to three years before it is ready for commercialisation.
A man with blonde hair smiling.
Joel Mackay is leading a $1.2 million research project into developing a varroa mite pesticide.(Supplied: Joel Mackay)

Project lead Joel Mackay says indications are the fight against the current incursions will be successful as with previous detections in Australian ports over the past decade.

"Hopefully the same will happen now and we buy ourselves some more time through which we can develop technologies like the one that we're working on," he said.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 25, 2022, 07:46:59 am
Max2
"Australian researchers are hoping to develop a world-first hormone-based pesticide, safe for honey bees but fatal to varroa mite, and another destructive pest, the small hive beetle."



Max this report is also very interesting. Please keep us updated as this research moves along.

Thanks,

Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 25, 2022, 08:07:21 am
This has just come in - the new site is connected to previous ones. They seem to do a good tracing job.

Dear max,

Please find below today's update published from NSW DPI Biosecurity just moments ago. This information was taken directly from the NSW DPI Biosecurity Facebook page (25/07/2022 at 9.00pm)



NSW DPI Varroa mite tracing and surveillance work has confirmed one new detection of Varroa mite, as field officers continue hive inspections with beekeepers across the state.

The new detection is near Nana Glen, north-west of Coffs Harbour and brings the total number of infested premises to 43.

The new infested hives where the Varroa mite was detected falls outside of existing emergency zones. NSW DPI has established emergency zones around the infested premises.

Our tracing efforts discovered this infested premises near Nana Glen, where infested hives were moved in earlier this year, prior to our Biosecurity Emergency Order was in place. This is connected to one of our existing infested premises in the Hunter cluster.

As an industry group, our intensive surveillance and tracing activities, in addition to the state-wide lockdown and creation of emergency zones, continue to play a critical role in emergency response efforts.

Visit www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/varroa and use the interactive map to search for your address, to determine what emergency zone you?re situated in.

 What should I do? 

- All beekeepers responsible for honeybee colonies or hives within 50km biosecurity zones are either in the Notification zone, Eradication or Surveillance zones.

-In those zones, beekeepers must tell NSW DPI where their honeybees and hives are. This includes queen honeybees in cages and packaged honeybees.

You can notify NSW DPI:

- to the Exotic Plant Pest Hotline 1800 084 881

- by using the online form at www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/varroa

If anyone in NSW has found Varroa mite, they must tell NSW DPI immediately.

Kind regards,

Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 25, 2022, 08:34:16 pm
Nana Glen - this is very bad.

15 beekeeprs affected - lots of hives.

Beekeepers on the NSW Mid North Coast are the latest to prepare to destroy their hives after the detection of varroa mite in hives at a blueberry farm.
Key points:

    NSW Apiarists Association president Steve Fuller says the outbreak will affect 15 beekeepers in the area
    There are concerns about the impact on the agriculture industry in the area
     About 5,000 hives are needed to pollinate blueberries, raspberries, blackberries, avocadoes and macadamias in the region until the end of September

The deadly bee parasite has been detected in Nana Glen, 25 kilometres inland from Coffs Harbour, where a 10-km eradication zone has been established.

It was the 43rd detection since an initial case in the Port of Newcastle last month.

"I'm shocked. I'm devastated," beekeeper Alan Elks said.

Mr Elks' family has been keeping bees in the area for several generations, and their hives are just a few kilometres from the detection site, putting them within the eradication zone.

Mr Elks said he had to find out about the detection on his doorstep from a fellow beekeeper.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 25, 2022, 10:11:54 pm
Max2
"Australian researchers are hoping to develop a world-first hormone-based pesticide, safe for honey bees but fatal to varroa mite, and another destructive pest, the small hive beetle."



Max this report is also very interesting. Please keep us updated as this research moves along.

Thanks,

Phillip

Hi Philip,
I have written tot the researcher and hope that I will be up-dated  on the progress of the work.

I have just come in from a check on some of my hives ( it is about 24C here) and the SHB are still active.
Our winters are so mild now that we don't seem to ever get a brood break and a rest from SHB

max





Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 26, 2022, 02:38:52 am
Quote
Hi Philip,
I have written tot the researcher and hope that I will be up-dated  on the progress of the work.

I have just come in from a check on some of my hives ( it is about 24C here) and the SHB are still active.
Our winters are so mild now that we don't seem to ever get a brood break and a rest from SHB

max

Thanks Max for doing your part 'and much more' with steadfast dedication such as informing beekeepers 'as in this topic', while seeking better beekeeping for all by bridging key important people with information you carry. Hopefully in time you and folks like you, who work so diligently will see your work bare much good fruit, boosting beekeeping to a higher an more enjoyed adventure for all.
 
I have hope that your countries' research on these matters (controlling Varroa and Small Hive Beetles) will turn out to be 'good for all',  and a chance for beekeepers like myself, who missed the Golden Age of beekeeping will 'realistically' have the chance to experience beekeeping as when beekeeping was Varroa and SHB free! I can only imagine 🙂

Phillip





 
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 27, 2022, 01:25:02 am
I hope this link works:
Just in from ABC News  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwiohx0ZECU
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on July 27, 2022, 02:27:35 am
Hives can leave Queensland for Victoria...but not certain that they can come back.

27 July 2022
Dear Members
I am writing to address the concerns of members over the movement of bees outside the state of
Queensland. We understand there is a great deal of anxiety within our membership in relation to the
movement of bees and for this reason I have prepared this letter to you.
Firstly, the Queensland Beekeepers? Association (QBA) do not make the decisions with relation to bees
crossing borders (re-entering Queensland). Whilst we advocate in the best interest of all Queensland
Beekeepers, ultimately the decisions relating to the movement of hives is at the discretion of the
Queensland and Victorian State governments.
The association has expressed the range of views and concerns of our members and wider industry to
government. The QBA management committee has and will continue to advocate for strong border
measures, enhanced surveillance, and strict enforcement.
We strongly recommend all QBA members considering migration of honey bees outside the state of
Queensland should conduct their own individual risk assessment, understanding that should they choose to
migrate hives outside of Queensland, they do so at their own risk.
The Queensland Government have communicated that there are no guarantees that honey bees will be able
to re-enter the state. We recognise there are stranded hives in New South Wales owned and operated by
Queensland based beekeepers and we are continuing to work with the Queensland Government to provide
continuity of business operations for the those impacted beekeepers.

The QBA will continue to work with government and advocate in the interest of all Queensland beekeepers.
The QBA will always put the interests of Queensland beekeepers first.
Sincerely,
Jacob Stevens
President
Queensland Beekeepers? Association.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on July 30, 2022, 01:02:56 am
Infestation map July 29


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Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on August 01, 2022, 01:10:59 am
I have not seen any updates on the spread or otherwise of varroa. I take it that no news is good news.

This has just come in:

Growers to source local bees for pollination services 
Queensland growers who engage beekeepers for pollination services should make arrangements for a local supply now ahead of the growing season.

The threat of varroa mite makes it even more critical to source local bees.

Under current restrictions, bees and hives from New South Wales cannot be brought into Queensland.

Anybody who usually sources bees from interstate for pollination is encouraged to engage with local Queensland based beekeepers for these services.

It?s a critical time for the beekeeping industry and we urge growers to consider how they could support beekeepers to maintain bee biosecurity responsibilities.

If you require hives from multiple beekeepers, ensure you are consulting with the beekeepers on hive placement and encourage beekeepers to undertake mite surveillance checks and report their findings to the Bee 123 online form, prior to the arrival of hives on farm.

Growers that generally source bees from interstate should contact their grower industry body in the first instance if they need to source bees for pollination. 

The Queensland Beekeepers? Association supports growers and can connect them with local beekeepers.

More information
Read more about varroa mite.

Visit the Department of Agriculture and Fisheries engagement hub?help protect our bees by reading the latest FAQs or ask us a question.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on August 01, 2022, 04:09:17 am
The latest up date :

Incursion update 31/07/22
Reporting of this incursion has been focused on mite detections and the red dots on maps.
The work that has been conducted by the 30 odd field teams of beekeeper volunteers,
DPI, RFS and LLS staff across the red, purple, yellow and blue zones is often not
highlighted.
To date there has been over 18,000 hives surveyed for mites across all the zones with a
combination of alcohol washes and strips/mats. Despite 18,000 hives being tested only 56
infested premises have been detected with only 3 of these infested premises being outside
the Newcastle red zones.
Over the past couple of weeks, the focus has been on surveillance in the perimeter of the
Newcastle zone to ensure the incursion has been delimited and a solid edge could be
found. This surveillance has only identified a few new IP?s in the Newcastle area. This
provides the Incident Management Team (IMT) with a renewed confidence that the
incursion is contained.
Tracing efforts have been successful in following hives that have moved out of the zones
over the last few months. Thousands of hives, identified through tracing across the blue
zone have been tested and resulted in 3 detections outside of the Newcastle zone
Trangie, Narrabri and Coffs Harbor. All of these detections have all been low mite
numbers and traced to direct, recent movements out of the Newcastle zone. Surveillance
around these detections have not detected any transfer of mites to other managed hives
or feral colonies. Further, intense surveillance, including mats and strips in these remote
zones will give the IMT greater confidence with the goal of declaring these areas free from
mites and remove the zones in time.
The associated intensive surveillance with the movement of hives to pollination will give
us, as an industry, a good indication that the incursion is contained or not. All beekeepers
that are moving hives have signed a legal declaration to say their hives have only been in
the lower risk, general emergency zone. If no mites are found then the IMT will be given a
high level of confidence it is contained, and eradication is achievable.
Eradication is the focus of the IMT until the National Management Group decide it is not
technically feasible to eradicate
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on August 01, 2022, 08:32:47 am
Max, I appreciate the attention to detail you placed in your update. Very encouraging report.

Phillip
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on August 01, 2022, 06:56:27 pm
Thanks Philip...BUT....I'm simply repeating press realease  as a " cut and paste". All cudos to the public servants
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on August 03, 2022, 08:15:16 am
I found this Max just now. 

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Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on August 03, 2022, 08:23:46 am
Updated infestation map...

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Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on August 05, 2022, 01:24:16 am
NSW     Department of
                 Primary Industries


Thursday 4 August                                                                                                                                                          .
Varroa Mite response Daily Update.

Tracing and surveillance have confirmed 9 new Infected Premises bringing the total to 73. Seven of the new IP's have been detected in the Port Stephens LGA at Raymond Terrace, Ferodale and Heatherbrae and the remaining two have been identified in Tarro and Mayfield east in the Newcastle LGA. All of these cases 'either have' clear links to existing cases or are geographically related through the movement of hives or equipment.

We have refocused our efforts on tracing and euthanising hives within the eradication zone, which has led to the increased number of Infected Premises.
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on August 08, 2022, 01:59:00 am
NSW     Department of
                 Primary Industries


Sunday 7, August

Latest updates
For previous updates, visit the archive page.
Sunday 7 August
Varroa mite response - Daily Update

Two new cases of Varroa mite have been detected at Seaham and Anna Bay. This brings the total number of Infected Premises to 79. These cases are located 'within existing eradication zones' and are geographically related.

Beekeepers in the surveillance zones should continue monitoring their hives for the presence of Varroa mite. You can keep up to date with the latest information on the NSW DPI Biosecurity Facebook page www.facebook.com/NSWDPI.Biosec
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on August 09, 2022, 04:08:09 am
83 sites :sad:
Varroa mite response - Daily Update 8/8/22
Ongoing Varroa mite tracing and surveillance has identified 4 additional infected premises (IPs), bringing the total number in NSW to 83. These IPs have been detected inside the eradication zone in the localities of Hinton, Brandy Hill, Macquarie Hills and Black Hill.
Beekeepers in the surveillance zones should continue monitoring their hives for the presence of Varroa mite.
The Emergency Zone map can be found here: https://fal.cn/3qQJz
You can keep up to date with the latest information on the NSW DPI Biosecurity Facebook page https://fal.cn/3qQJy
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on August 11, 2022, 05:05:10 am
Just in...
Dear max,

Earlier this week a new movement control order came into effect. As the situation stands, bees, used equipment or bee products (including unprocessed honey) cannot be moved into Queensland from any state or territory without a permit.



We must reiterate that processed honey and processed beeswax can be moved if:

honey has been extracted, filtered, strained or settled to remove wax cappings and dead bees
it has been packed in a facility without bees
the outside of the container, and any frames, pallets and packaging are free from honey or beeswax
it is a quarantine secured diagnostic honey sample for testing at a recognised diagnostic facility.
DAF have confirmed that all registered beekeepers have been emailed information relating to the new movement control order as at the close of business today. If for some reason you are not receiving RBE (Registered Biosecurity Entity) emails, please contact DAF on 13 25 23 to confirm your contact information as a matter of priority.

To read the new movement control order, please click on the attachment below.

movement-and-control-order-notice.pdf.pdf
We anticipate we will have a better understanding of the Queensland Government's risk assessment process and the plans and provisions for the permit system in the coming days. As soon as the permit provisions have been finalised we will communicate the updates on permits as a matter of high priority to our members.

The QBA continues to engage consultatively with the Department of Agriculture and Biosecurity Queensland to advocate in the best interests of our members and greater industry, protecting the future of beekeeping in Queensland.

Kind regards,





Jo Martin
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: max2 on August 12, 2022, 10:42:18 pm
97 sites
Temperatures are expected to start warming up by the end of next week ( at least here)

I have not seen any drones as yet. I would expect swarms are only a few weeks off. This the time when will be in trouble if more and more hives are found with Varroa.

The quaetion I have - if the new sites are within the eradictaion zone - why have they not been eradicated?


Varroa mite response - Daily Update
Ongoing Varroa mite tracing and surveillance has identified 4 additional infected premises (IPs) today, with the total number of IPs in NSW now at 97.
The new infected premises are at Salt Ash, Mayfield East and Beresfield, all within the eradication zone.
All cases to date either have clear links through the movement of hives or equipment, or are geographically related.
The Emergency Zone map can be found here: https://fal.cn/3qYSE
Beekeepers in the surveillance zones should continue to monitor their hives for the presence of Varroa mite.
You can keep up to date with the latest information at https://fal.cn/3qYSF
Title: Re: Varroa detected in Australia
Post by: Ben Framed on August 13, 2022, 12:16:08 am
max2
> The quaetion I have - if the new sites are within the eradictaion zone - why have they not been eradicated?

Its a tough battle Max. May I refer first paragraph in reply 22 and reply 30 to help those who may not understand what a real chore this battle is in the effort to element this awful mite. I an not attempting to dissuade the honest effort set forth by your officials and countrymen. As Michale Bush 'paraphrasing' also stated somewhere on this topic: If even one mite is overlooked or not eliminated the battle is lost.

Its all or nothing in my opinion. When I watched a video showing that some hives were eliminated in an apiary which tested positive,  while other hives in the same apiary were sparred, I felt sick for the following reasons in reply 22 and 30

Phillip





Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
>>Reply #22 on: June 29, 2022, 09:55:51 pm <<
Quote
quote NigelP
Whilst it's very sad you guys have now got varroa. It's not a death sentence, most of the rest of the worlds beekeepers live with the little blighters. There are plenty of effective treatments for keeping their numbers low so that they have little noticeable impact on the bees.
But killing all the bees and  burning all those hives, I really feel for any keeper having his livelihood destroyed.

But eradicating feral bees....is that even possible?

How did it arrive? A swarm of bees setting up home on a container ship? Illegal imports of bees?

Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
>>Reply #22 on: June 29, 2022, 09:55:51 pm <<
"I agree NigleP. Though not a death sentence, this news is a hit below the belt.
Lets consider: Even if every single domestic hive which has varroa is eradicated, feral bees which may be affected and harboring Varroa Destructor are still a breeding ground and a solid bridge for varroa. If just 'one' feral hive having varroa is missed, then the spread starts all over again. Millions of dollars wasted not counting the heartbreak and heartache. "

"I will in no way try and dissuade efforts to control this pest by any method or means our friends see fit to try and deem necessary. At the end of the day they must be able to say "we did our best and we controlled the problem", or "we did our best even if the problem is not solved"."

"Whether a successful eradication of varroa or not; It may well be time for our friends Down Under to educate themselves about Varroa Destructor if they haven't already...
There is LOADS of GREAT information here at Beemaster for your convenience concerning 'every conceivable aspect' of Varroa; From research papers posted from all over the world concerning every aspect of varroa, including treatment methods along with the breakdown of treating tools. The Search engine at the top of the page, might be a best friend to our friends from DownUnder at this time, win, lose, or draw... "

"I think it is safe to say, if we at Beemaster can be of aid, please call on us. Not only will the staff try and help but our many members from all over will try and help as well. I say this with complete confidence."

Sincerely,

Phillip
 




Also:

Re: Varroa dedected in Australia
?<<Reply #30 on: July 01, 2022, 11:41:46 am >>
"It has been determined that Varroa can not live more than 5 days without a host which is a promising good thing."

Honest Questions:

"If all domesticated managed hives are completely destroyed in the kill zones, what will become of the bees which may have missed the eradication process while out forging, which may host live varroa? Will they beg into unknown feral hives? The same question for eradicated hives on the outer limits of the kill zone. What will become of the forging bees which no longer have a home. Can they simply find their way to a hive 'outside' of the eradication zone, or an unknown feral hive 'outside or inside' the kill zone? Will they beg into a nearby hive, bringing with them the varroa they may have in their possession, (on their person)? "

"If a feral hive is eradicated (killed on the spot) with a 'certain chemical' which was suggested in the article I posted earlier, will the chemical kill the capped brood in these feral hives as well where varroa may be living and developing? Will this varroa survive? Will the varroa emerge from the capped brood and live for 5 days, allowing time for a robber bee from another unknown feral hive to come along allowing themselves to becoming a brand new Varroa host? "

"Most likely the officials there In Australia have already asked themselves these very same questions and probably many more? If so, what are their answers?"

"Varroa Mites | Texas Apiary Inspection Service (TAIS)
They are spread within a colony when bees come into contact with one another. Mites are also spread between colonies and apiaries via robbing, drifting, swarming, and absconding. Varroa mites are unable to live for more than a few days without a host and therefore, you will not find Varroa mites in a dead out hive."

Phillip