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FARMING & COUNTRY LIFE / Re: Breaking a Broody Hen
« Last post by Michael Bush on February 22, 2024, 01:27:20 pm »
Chickens can't sweat.  Same with pigs, dogs etc.  There is some transpiration of moisture from their skin (like any animal) but no sweat.
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FARMING & COUNTRY LIFE / Re: Breaking a Broody Hen
« Last post by Kathyp on February 22, 2024, 12:42:22 pm »
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A dry egg has few problems with bacteria.

That's probably true, but if the egg sits under the hen it is not dry.  Is hen sweat naturally anti-bacterial?   :grin:
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FARMING & COUNTRY LIFE / Re: Breaking a Broody Hen
« Last post by Michael Bush on February 22, 2024, 11:57:23 am »
I'm not arguing that apparently it worked for you.  I'm just saying my concern.  A dry egg has few problems with bacteria.  A wet one does.  That's why refrigerating eggs that are for sale is illegal in Europe.  They are trying to avoid the condensation from getting the egg wet and causing the bacteria to activate.  It's also illegal to wash eggs that are for sale. 
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FARMING & COUNTRY LIFE / Re: Breaking a Broody Hen
« Last post by Ben Framed on February 22, 2024, 11:31:44 am »
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Do I need to point out where eggs come from?  The bacterial problem is already on the egg but not active when dry.

Nor do you need to point out what sometimes can get on the shell of the egg from the hens foot as she leaves the nest periodically and returns to sit.  . I do not know if the egg shell itself has a natural built in filtering system, or a natural antibacterial property, I am not a scientist, but I have reported what I did to eliminate the sticking shell problem and the results of improved hatching of (healthy) chicks while eliminating those sticking problems that you described and I have also experienced as well, (due to lack of proper incubating moisture in the incubator),  from my personal experience.

Phillip
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FARMING & COUNTRY LIFE / Re: Breaking a Broody Hen
« Last post by Michael Bush on February 22, 2024, 10:44:04 am »
>The light mist coat of water was clear and clean.

Do I need to point out where eggs come from?  The bacterial problem is already on the egg but not active when dry.
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FARMING & COUNTRY LIFE / Re: Breaking a Broody Hen
« Last post by Ben Framed on February 22, 2024, 10:37:01 am »
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If you ever put your hand under a broody hen they are pretty warm and damp so I guess it's OK.

Thanks Kathy.
Worked for me time and again. The old Sears and Roebuck is many years gone. I have a styrofoam little giant now. I am wondering if they do a better job of keeping the eggs moist than the old types that Michael and I used in years gone by?

Does anyone here use the modern Little Giant type incubators? If so what are your experiences?

Phillip
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FARMING & COUNTRY LIFE / Re: Breaking a Broody Hen
« Last post by Ben Framed on February 22, 2024, 10:27:13 am »
The light mist coat of water was clear and clean. The eggs were very warm from incubation and a portion of the misted water, (I suppose), was absorbed into the egg. What was not absorbed was transformed into humidity when the heating top was put back into place.  (Stands to reason)
In nature the needed moisture for eggs is given off from the setting hen, (Again I suppose).
Regardless, my hatching problems due to sticking to the shell was resolved, while my successful hatching of a high percentage of healthy chicks was the result.

Phillip
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FARMING & COUNTRY LIFE / Re: Breaking a Broody Hen
« Last post by Kathyp on February 22, 2024, 10:24:21 am »
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I would be afraid that might activate bacteria on the surface.

The humidity in the incubators is high.  The newer incubators have a water reservoir that keeps it that way. 

If you ever put your hand under a broody hen they are pretty warm and damp so I guess it's OK. 
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GENERAL BEEKEEPING - MAIN POSTING FORUM. / Re: Protective suits
« Last post by Michael Bush on February 22, 2024, 09:45:19 am »
> I guess that the water needs to be changed periodically to prevent a mosquito farm.

Correct.  Or put some fish in it...
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FARMING & COUNTRY LIFE / Re: Breaking a Broody Hen
« Last post by Michael Bush on February 22, 2024, 09:41:59 am »
>I would lightly mist the eggs. That did the trick!

I would be afraid that might activate bacteria on the surface.
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