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GENERAL BEEKEEPING - MAIN POSTING FORUM. / Re: bee clusters
« Last post by JurassicApiary on June 03, 2023, 01:21:01 pm »
Just an opinion, but I would discourage the use of Testors little bottle of paints for marking.  They're oil based and technically considered toxic because of the solvents used in manufacturing the paint mixture.  Per Testors MSDS (varies by color/kit), chemicals contained in the paint that are classified as Hazardous Substances include: Mineral Spirits, Naphtha, Petroleum, Hydrotreated Distillates, Octane & Methyl Ethyl Ketoxime. And we're not talking about tiny fractions of the formulation (there's a reason that stuff sticks to plastic models so well!): It lists the formulation of the paints (e.g. Red) is about 30% Mineral Spirits, 15% Naptha and 15% Hydrytreated Distillates based on weight, plus other ingredients such as Octane and MEK (highly toxic stuff).  Further, the MSDS sheet indicates that "38% of the (remaining) mixture consists of ingredients unknown toxicity.

As you can imagine, it's probably not great for her health to smear this onto a queen.  I too love the thought of Testors and had considered them myself years ago until I did the research on the paint formulation.  It's great for models and plastics and projects (all those chemicals are why it works so well in those applications) but I just don't think it's in the best interest of their health to put it onto queens for marking purposes.

You may review the MSDS sheet here if you wish: https://tinyurl.com/testors

Best wishes with your bee clusters!   Matthew
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Got a call for a swarm so I came over early this morning. In the process of the capture one of the girls got my finger. Wouldn't ya know it, walked all over the yard and surrounding area, not one plantain to be found 🤦
:cheesy: Ain't that just the way. 
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Take you pocket knife, mark an X on the sting hole and suck the poison out!! That will do it! The sooner the better!   :shocked: :shocked:  LOL   :wink: Im just kidding.
Im in a kidding mood this morning! A nice, bright, but cool sun shining morning here in Mississippi! 
Congratulations on you new bees Occam!! Keep us updated on their progress..

Phillip
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Got a call for a swarm so I came over early this morning. In the process of the capture one of the girls got my finger. Wouldn't ya know it, walked all over the yard and surrounding area, not one plantain to be found 🤦
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OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES FORUM / Re: Lesgold?s Road Trip
« Last post by Ben Framed on June 03, 2023, 09:32:54 am »
Hi Phillip

We are enjoying the trip. The station put on a burger night last night and served 430 people. It is a popular evening and the place was pumping last night with live music making the outing quite enjoyable. There is not much grass at the moment as it has turned dry after a good wet season. Cattle are stocked at one cow per eighty acres but this will be reduced due to the dry season. A muster is going to start soon. 3000 cattle are held on the property. When we can access wifi, I will download some pictures taken recently. We hit the road today heading inland into the Hamersley Range.

With 430 folks, live music, and entertainment, Y'all had quite a shindig! I bet the place was pumping!  :grin:
Im not very familiar with the cattle grazing out west 'here' in America which is dry and perhaps similar in situation, and as I understand it, in Southwest Texas the grazing is sparse, but what grazing is available is packed with nutrition.
Its nice to hear y'all are having such a good time Les..

Phillip
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GENERAL BEEKEEPING - MAIN POSTING FORUM. / Re: bee clusters
« Last post by Ben Framed on June 03, 2023, 09:15:47 am »
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Until I do the change-over to yet another hive ... and examine things closely with new knowledge you guys have given me ... I don't know the queen situation. .. but I have the testors paint and a plunger&screen thingie ready for that.(fingers crossed)

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GENERAL BEEKEEPING - MAIN POSTING FORUM. / Re: bee clusters
« Last post by FloridaGardener on June 03, 2023, 02:41:44 am »
They will cluster at a gap in the hive so as to control temperature and humidity.
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GENERAL BEEKEEPING - MAIN POSTING FORUM. / Re: bee clusters
« Last post by animal on June 03, 2023, 12:57:26 am »
I am thinking that what he means by this, Phillip, is that he saw queen cups when he did the cutout, but none were charged with larvae.  You didn't see any full-sized queen cells at any point, did you animal?

Yes sir. That is exactly what I meant ... and no haven't seen any full queen cells. Only ones I saw were empty and at the time of cut-out.
They are no longer in there because I cut them away when I condensed the hive to the nuc.

No .. don't have a marked queen. I saw the queen a little too late and the vacuum got her. Then, I bumbled things with the collection box(for the vac) ..and released a bunch of them ... Set the hive I built near the cut-out hive and the bees were scavenging honey from the cut-out area, guiding the escapees into my hive, and all going into my hive at night. I was all cocky at that point ..saying the bees were my employees finishing up the clean-up ... and then, dipwad poisoned them...  I condensed them into the "nuc" pictured (that I had built as a trap). cut-out on May 4th. Poisoning was 7th or 8th (I think.)

I had originally just wired big pieces of brood comb (anything that actually had babies of some sort) to frames and those frames went into the 10 frame deep box in the same order as they had originally  been in the cut-out hive (the piece of comb closest to the entrance in the cut-out nest became the one closest to the entrance in my hive .. and so on .. preserved order, which way they faced, and top-bottom) When I condensed them, I saved as much brood comb as possible by cutting out empty comb on 4 frames and jigsawing in pieces from other frames that had baby-bees ... and it ended up with 4 completely filled frames of brood (except for about 3 square inches on one frame). On the #5 frame , I just wired in a piece of honeycomb.
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Until I do the change-over to yet another hive ... and examine things closely with new knowledge you guys have given me ... I don't know the queen situation. .. but I have the testors paint and a plunger&screen thingie ready for that.(fingers crossed)

the gap.. only about 1/16" or less .. a little wad of propolis holding it up at the corner ... maybe it just confused them?

and yes, the shallow box is   5 7/8"
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OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES FORUM / Re: Lesgold?s Road Trip
« Last post by The15thMember on June 03, 2023, 12:41:20 am »
Hi Phillip

We are enjoying the trip. The station put on a burger night last night and served 430 people. It is a popular evening and the place was pumping last night with live music making the outing quite enjoyable. There is not much grass at the moment as it has turned dry after a good wet season. Cattle are stocked at one cow per eighty acres but this will be reduced due to the dry season. A muster is going to start soon. 3000 cattle are held on the property. When we can access wifi, I will download some pictures taken recently. We hit the road today heading inland into the Hamersley Range.
Holy cow!  (No pun intended.  :cheesy:)  That's insanely few cattle!  No wonder they have so much land.  Is that normal for this area to have so little forage?   
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GENERAL BEEKEEPING - MAIN POSTING FORUM. / Re: bee clusters
« Last post by animal on June 03, 2023, 12:34:01 am »
sorry, accidentally double posted trying to edit ..
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