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Ratchet rake.
« on: November 08, 2017, 11:06:53 pm »
I just picked up my new ratchet rake. Has anyone used one?
A friend has one and said it is great for clearing brush. It attaches to the bucket on the front end loader. I haven't tried it yet, too many projects going now.
I originally ordered it to spread slag on my driveway.  It took 6 weeks to arrive at TSC. Already spread the slag a month ago, with a box blade. That worked real well.
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Re: Ratchet rake.
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2017, 11:08:57 pm »
Here is a link to see what it is/does.
http://www.ratchetrake.com/
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« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2017, 09:44:51 am »
My rachet rake started out like this:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/rX4VpjUWQO1ycma12

When I get my tractor back from the shop I will link a photo to the final design.  My gardens were made in an area with trees 50 feet in height.  I spent a lot of time digging out roots and stumps.  Most of the large rocks are cleared now.  Occasionally one will turn up.

Today the back yard and garden looks like this:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/L5TlCL7gihObHl0p2
« Last Edit: November 09, 2017, 10:17:24 am by Acebird »
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Re: Ratchet rake.
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2017, 11:20:19 am »
I looked into that product.  My terrain is too rough, hilly, steep and overgrown for it to the work I am interested in.  hence the JD 450 rental for trails.  I'm clearing a lot of 40-50 year old growth. 
I'd like it for small jobs though.

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« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2017, 12:43:39 pm »
Let us know how it works.  I've been looking at them for a few years now, but haven't bought one yet...
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Re: Ratchet rake.
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2017, 06:38:55 am »
My rachet rake started out like this:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/rX4VpjUWQO1ycma12

When I get my tractor back from the shop I will link a photo to the final design.  My gardens were made in an area with trees 50 feet in height.  I spent a lot of time digging out roots and stumps.  Most of the large rocks are cleared now.  Occasionally one will turn up.

Today the back yard and garden looks like this:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/L5TlCL7gihObHl0p2
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Re: Ratchet rake.
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2017, 06:41:59 am »
Let us know how it works.  I've been looking at them for a few years now, but haven't bought one yet...
Will do.
Better yet, maybe you can try it out during Beefest 2018.
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« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2017, 12:19:08 pm »
>Better yet, maybe you can try it out during Beefest 2018.

There you go.
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Re: Ratchet rake.
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2017, 12:55:36 pm »
Just put it in the overhead.

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« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2017, 01:40:02 pm »
Psparr,
Do you mean for storage?
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« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2017, 02:57:30 pm »
In the plane. Should fit.

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« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2017, 05:58:18 pm »
It's not my rake...
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Re: Ratchet rake.
« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2017, 07:03:57 pm »
Might work better than the way I do it.  I just bash my way through and try not to get dragged off the seat by the blackberries.  There's usually some blood involved and torn up clothing.   :cheesy:
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« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2017, 09:00:14 pm »
Kathy,
I have not tried it yet but per a buddy that has one, you drive up to the brush, drop the loader/rake down over them and back up. Then you use the rake to push the brush/vines into a pile.
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« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2017, 04:27:38 am »
I find the teeth on the skid steer bucket do a reasonable job on light scrub and small blackberries but for heavy scrub and blackberry patches that might cover a few acres and be 10-12 feet high you need more protection.
I built this for the skid steer


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« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2017, 06:53:20 am »
That looks like it will do the job!
Looks like it cost a lot more than $400 to build and that's just material costs.
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« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2017, 01:36:18 pm »
I need that and a cage.   :cool:
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« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2017, 02:37:33 pm »
Me too!

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« Reply #18 on: November 14, 2017, 04:07:25 pm »
That looks like it will do the job!
Looks like it cost a lot more than $400 to build and that's just material costs.
Jim

Depends how you cost it, had a sheet of 5/8" plate sitting around doing nothing as was the 4x4" heavy wall RHS.
Could say it cost nothing but a couple a days to put it together, either way it does do the job and the original design must have been reasonable as 18 months on we haven't had to modify or repair it.

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« Reply #19 on: November 14, 2017, 04:26:57 pm »
looks like you might have burned up a lot of gas torching that plate.
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« Reply #20 on: November 14, 2017, 10:20:24 pm »
It does not look like it is torch cut.
220,
What did you use to cut it? Bandsaw maybe.
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« Reply #21 on: November 15, 2017, 03:23:59 am »
Torch cut, it is surprising how clean you can cut using a set of wheels. Take the wobble out with a set of wheels or a guide and you will notice a real improvement in the cut finish.

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« Reply #22 on: November 15, 2017, 06:35:44 am »
I just started using my cutting torch this pars week. Lines are jagged as can be. I would love to be able to cut like that. What is the name of those wheels? Do you have a picture of it?
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« Reply #23 on: November 15, 2017, 08:54:23 am »
If you are doing a number of the same cuts you make a template out of sheet metal smaller then the actual piece you want.  Then put a bearing on the torch.  Ride the bearing against the template.  This will make them all the same.  Now if you are a production shop (old days) you put the torch on a pantograph that is driven by an adjustable speed motor.  With the speed controlled and following a template parts come out like you sawed them.  Today it is all computerized but that takes bucks.
I would assume the wheels control the height of the torch from the work piece.  Is that correct?
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« Reply #24 on: November 15, 2017, 02:50:41 pm »
Wheels I use are just like this
https://www.boc.com.au/shop/en/au/boc-torch-cutting-roller-guide

You set your height but it is the elimination of the side to side wobble that really improves the quality of the cut.

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« Reply #25 on: November 15, 2017, 05:09:19 pm »
Only problem I see with that is it makes it tough to follow and irregular shaped guide.  Great for straight cuts though.  looking at the wheels again you could use just one wheel and then you could run the torch up to a guide for contoured cuts.
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« Reply #26 on: November 15, 2017, 07:12:21 pm »
Like you said Acebird great for straight cuts, you can also get a radius guide, replaces one wheel with a rod that has a pin on the other end. Centre pop you material place the pin in the centre pop hole set your radius and you are cutting a perfect circles or radius.

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« Reply #27 on: November 16, 2017, 08:52:08 am »
Yes, I can see that working very nicely.  Personal preference ... do you push or Pull the torch?  I prefer pulling.
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« Reply #28 on: November 16, 2017, 01:35:19 pm »
Brian,
I was told, this past week to angle it towards the direction of the cut. Does anyone do the reverse?
Looks like you could also use this tool to follow a pattern/template or a strait edge.
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« Reply #29 on: November 16, 2017, 02:01:01 pm »
Brian,
I was told, this past week to angle it towards the direction of the cut.
Maybe there is some sense to that but I don't know what it is.  It could not be done when you are doing radii or contours on thick material.  Any automatic rig I have seen has the torch perpendicular to the surface.  What I have been told in order of importance is adjust the flame, set the height and control the speed.  I would think that rate of speed would be dependent on thickness and flame.  The faster you go the cleaner the cut but by hand any little wiggle and you lose the burn so basically you have to go slower so you don't lose the burn.
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« Reply #30 on: November 16, 2017, 02:36:17 pm »
I prefer to pull and prefer cutting left to right going freehand.
I think your order of importance is correct, In my experience a bigger tip and flame than needed usually gives a poorer finish as you only need to reach the ignition temp to cut not the melting point.

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« Reply #31 on: November 16, 2017, 08:27:25 pm »
I used my cutting torch and stick welder today, just practicing. I cut the acetylene pressure back to 4 psi and it cut beautifully. I ran several lines till they looked correct and then welded up some scrap 1/4" plate steal. By the time I got to the the last piece it was looking pretty good.
I spent a lot of time last night watching utube welding and cutting videos.
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« Reply #32 on: November 16, 2017, 09:13:36 pm »
Nothing beats practice and experience Jim.

Oh, My old tractor is sick.  Steering shaft is all buggered up and no one has parts.  Time for some Afro engineering if I am allowed to say that.
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« Reply #33 on: November 17, 2017, 03:49:05 am »
Nothing beats practice and experience Jim.

Yep best way to improve is practice.
I spent most of the day cutting welding and grinding on the firebox for my offset build.
I'll put a few photos up in the thread I started on it.

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« Reply #34 on: November 17, 2017, 10:02:20 am »
Thanks,  I plan to use some scrap steel to practice cutting and welding until I can get it every time. I have a bush hog that needs some welding. I plan to practice and then weld it up. I will have to cut out the crappy welds that I did the first time.
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« Reply #35 on: November 17, 2017, 10:28:53 am »
I plan to practice and then weld it up. I will have to cut out the crappy welds that I did the first time.
Jim

Not doing it for a living I am a hack but I found some stick is a lot easier to use than others.  I think what I am using is in the 70 series that I get at Tractor supply.  I can get that number for you if you want it Jim.
The stick I am using is 7014 and 7018.
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« Reply #36 on: November 17, 2017, 02:36:46 pm »
Brian,
I mostly using 7018. I also have 6011 and 6013 in 1/8 and 1/16.
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« Reply #37 on: November 17, 2017, 02:37:41 pm »
I use what we call 12P and 16TC for just about everything around the farm, equivalent with your numbering system would be 6013 & 7016.
The other one I find very handy is 309 it is designed for welding 309 class stainless but can also be used for welding SS to mild steel.


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« Reply #38 on: November 17, 2017, 02:43:40 pm »
Thanks 220. I need to get some 309 as well as more 7018. I have a lot of scrap SS laying around so I want the 309 on hand. I did see some at the Tractor Supply Store yesterday. Now that I know what I can use it for I will get it.
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« Reply #39 on: November 17, 2017, 02:58:45 pm »
With SS you can just about halve the amps you use.

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« Reply #40 on: November 17, 2017, 03:20:19 pm »
Thanks, good to know. What about when you are welding to steel?
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« Reply #41 on: November 17, 2017, 05:19:48 pm »
Good to know I would have thought you would have to increase amps for SS.
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« Reply #42 on: November 24, 2017, 09:54:13 pm »
https://photos.app.goo.gl/YGc9dQTsA9JEPQEq1 https://photos.app.goo.gl/DYtbUl0g1cdECI1z1

Well I tried inserting photos again and no luck.  Files too big.  Tried to find a file editor that wouldn't fill your hard dive with cookies and crap with no avail so links is the best I can do.

I had a draft for this but somehow lost it...
Anyway.  This is my cheesy creation.  It is made from two wide flanges and a couple of channels plus some bed frame stock.  The bed frame stock is my smoothing tool (Jim they are hard to weld because they are high carbon).  It attaches with 4 pins.  The two channels in the center attach with one pin each.  I also have a couple of wooden angle plows that attach to the two wide flanges that I use for back filling planted rows once the seed are planted.  It certainly is not pretty but it does a lot of work for the back yard farmer.
I can put as many as 4 wheel weights to make it dig deeper.  That would be if you wanted to use it as a rake.  Usually I use two or none.
This was a fun project because I had a need and it gave me some practice burning up rod.
The only thing I purchased for this project was the draw bar from TS and some welding rod.
Edit: trying this photo attachment...
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« Reply #43 on: November 25, 2017, 01:09:04 am »
Brian,
Nice project.
How has it held up. I suspect the angle iron will bend the first time it hits something real solid. If you have another piece of angle iron, it would help it hold stronger if you welded a second one inverted just above it or added a piece of flat stock welded to the top section of the angle iron.
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« Reply #44 on: November 25, 2017, 09:11:20 am »
Ah it won't bend Jim.  There are two pieces of bedframe angle ( queen size) welded together.  Maybe you can't see it in the photo.  It is high carbon and hard, tough to drill.  It is way stronger than 1/4 structural angle.  I have been using this 6 years now.  You can't see it in the field because it is smoothed over but every year I pull 5-6 inch rocks out of it.  Originally they were 8-10.  The bottom plow keeps turning them up.  They are getting smaller though and less of them.  One of the reasons I am reluctant to move to FL is because of all the work here that we have done will go to waste when we leave.
Held up?  Yeah it sure has.  There were three big trees in that garden area.  For two or three years it was a struggle getting the stump and roots out.  The last big one (3 ft dia trunk) still has some trunk below the surface and just about throws me over the steering wheel when I hit it with the plow.  That is why the garden isn't wider.  This rig is what I use to rip out roots.  I take off the bed frame steel and the two channel forks and just use the two big wide flange forks that is the main weldment.   After the forks hook a root I can use the three point hydraulics to work the root up or just loosen the dirt around them.  Obviously the three point doesn't have the power to handle a 3 ft dia tree so you have to let mother nature rot the trunk over time.  Then I can break off the roots from the trunk.  Surprisingly they don't rot too fast because they are not exposed to the air.
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« Reply #45 on: November 25, 2017, 10:56:58 am »
You can help Mother Nature by adding nitrogen that area or directly to the exposed wood then the microbes go to work  faster, it works.

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« Reply #46 on: November 25, 2017, 11:07:33 am »
Yup, that is where the chicken poop goes.
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« Reply #47 on: November 25, 2017, 07:36:30 pm »
Don't own a camera anymore I use my phone. To resize photos I just email them to myself from my phone and it gives me the option to resize them.

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