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Offline TheHoneyPump

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Native bees in hives
« on: October 04, 2019, 02:26:08 pm »
Here is an interesting question that was posed to me yesterday. Any knowledge, observations, research on this would be helpful.
Here is the Q posed:
Can and do small native solitary bees such as miners, masons, carpenter, leaf cutters, etc sometimes find temporary refuge in honey bee hives when weather turns challenging
The question comes from observation by the beekeeper of different coloured bees showing up in her the hives in the fall. The bees also look a bit different, not just colour. The honey bees seem ok with them, showing no aggression or much attention towards them.  They seem to be paid little attention much like when the drones are hopping hive to hive on a sunny day.
« Last Edit: October 04, 2019, 06:25:26 pm by TheHoneyPump »
When the lid goes back on, the bees will spend the next 3 days undoing most of what the beekeeper just did to them.

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Re: Native bees in hives
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2019, 05:46:17 pm »
It would be nice if everyone were received and treated this way. Open door policy as it were
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Re: Native bees in hives
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2019, 06:56:31 pm »
Salty, what a beautiful thought, I should learn from you.

HP, yesterday, 10/6/19 I watched a bumble bee try to enter a bee hive.  The bumblebee was wrestled off the entrance and took off.

As you are aware, Hornets, yellow jackets, the carnivores type bees/wasp are killed if they mess with my hives.  However, to my knowledge bumblebees are nectar gathering and not a threat such as the carnivores but there was no time wasted by my honeybees attacking the sole bumblebee.

About one week ago, I did notice a small, I mean tiny, shiny green bee on a frame in my hive.  Not a mason bee, I am looking at a bee 1/4 the size of the worker honey bee and a very slim bee for it body length.  There is a possibility the green bee flies unnoticed on the frame I was inspecting and was not actually in the hive.

In Arkansas there must be 20 different species of bees or wasp I have noticed on my property including the dreaded European Hornet.  Wait till you see one of those hornets up close and personal.  Bee suit no protection from the European hornet.

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Re: Native bees in hives
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2019, 07:52:42 pm »
I?ve watched them drag bumble bees out.

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Re: Native bees in hives
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2019, 09:00:23 am »
Generally I find dead bumble bees in the hives every fall and spring.  But I have also seen a leaf cutter bee in my observation hive being umolested... not often though.
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Re: Native bees in hives
« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2019, 12:34:46 pm »
Mason bees and leaf cutter bees have made their nests in holes, laid their eggs, sealed them up and gone to die long before autumn.  the new generation won't emerge until next spring for masons, and summer for leaf cutters.  You likely won't find them in HB hives.
I'm not familiar with the reproductive process of carpenter or miner bees, but I do know the HBs get mighty defensive when it comes to other competitive species that might try to get into their stores.
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Re: Native bees in hives
« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2019, 09:17:28 pm »
Good to know Hops.  You always have good post: short to the point, and factual.  Thank you Sir.
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