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Offline Salvo

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Carniolan Queens
« on: April 25, 2024, 12:07:29 pm »
Hi Folks,

A pal just phoned. She bought and just received two Carniolan queens. She IS an experienced beek, but new to Carnies.

She told me they are both *skinny*! Definitely not full-figured girls.

OK? What's skinny? I haven't seen them yet.

Any *newly mated* queen may remain skinny for some days after fertilization until her innards mature as she begins to lay. Are Carnie Queens observably slimmer than other more known races?

She's going to call the supplier, but anyone here got an opinion on this?

Thank you for your prompt response.

Sal

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Re: Carniolan Queens
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2024, 12:34:14 pm »
Yes, I have an opinion. First I dont have a lot of  experience with mail in queens but I have a little. I bought 4 in Late Fall my first season, really almost too late for such. (Had a good reason and another story) But each were skinny. I presumed from being deprived from the ability to lay, just as a good ole mated proven queen will be and become skinny just before she swarms; affording her the ability to fly.

It was too late in the season for the queens to mate if they had been virgins to do any good and there were not drones, yet early enough to produce enough bees for the Winter since they were already mated.

I followed the instruction of David, the guy I bought the queens from who is in  Georgia. The queens were once again plump and laying again in no time. Following Davids instructions, not only did each Nuc at the helm of these queens survive the Winter, they thrived.

I think these skinny (mated) queens are another good reason to leave the caged queen inside the new hive home, not releasing them immediately , because they can fly away if release immediately. Personally I think it good practice to leave caged queens in the new hive at least 2 days. (just for good measure) Then if she has not been released by then, (by the bees eating away the candied stopper at one end of the cage), being inpatient, I went ahead and released myself. By then she knows she's home and the bees have become accustomed to her and accepte as the new mama... Or you can be patient and the bees will release her.





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Re: Carniolan Queens
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2024, 01:07:03 pm »
Skinny has nothing to do with race.  It has nothing to do with how well mated they are.  It has everything to do with when they were last laying.  As soon as they start laying they will fill out.
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Re: Carniolan Queens
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2024, 01:29:34 pm »
In a nut shell, exactly.
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Re: Carniolan Queens
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2024, 01:35:36 pm »
Thanks Gents.

Consensus on my end confirms your statements.

Queens probably overly long in the cages. Once they are out and *functioning* they will fill out and perform as well as a chubby one!

Sal

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Re: Carniolan Queens
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2024, 06:19:18 am »
I have seen noticeable shrinkage in 12 hours or less from when she's caged.
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