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Offline Terri Yaki

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Re: What did you do in your Apiary/Bee yard today?
« Reply #680 on: April 16, 2024, 08:38:49 am »
You could possibly cut out a small section of comb with eggs for him, which won't have a major impact on your new hive. I do this quite frequently when requeening and it seems to work well.
I was wondering about something like that. Thanks, I'll look into that. Could a few eggs possible be picked out with a dental pic and placed into his comb?

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Re: What did you do in your Apiary/Bee yard today?
« Reply #681 on: April 16, 2024, 10:01:12 am »
Good idea Nigel. How do you place this small piece into your hive in need??

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Re: What did you do in your Apiary/Bee yard today?
« Reply #682 on: April 16, 2024, 10:24:46 am »
I don't know of any way to glue an egg to the bottom of a cell.  Picking out eggs and putting them in cells will just result in the bees removing those loose eggs.
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Re: What did you do in your Apiary/Bee yard today?
« Reply #683 on: April 16, 2024, 10:42:04 am »
A few years ago van from Arkansas asked a question, can worker bees move eggs. I can?t find the topic, but the answer seemed pretty well agreed upon, no. So if the bees cant do it. . .
If only a few eggs are intended to be moved, then I would think Nigel?s way would be the answer.

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Re: What did you do in your Apiary/Bee yard today?
« Reply #684 on: April 16, 2024, 11:18:58 am »
You could possibly cut out a small section of comb with eggs for him, which won't have a major impact on your new hive. I do this quite frequently when requeening and it seems to work well.
I was wondering about something like that. Thanks, I'll look into that. Could a few eggs possible be picked out with a dental pic and placed into his comb?
No harm in trying if you have the time and patience. Thats how we learn things.


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Re: What did you do in your Apiary/Bee yard today?
« Reply #685 on: April 16, 2024, 11:41:11 am »
Good idea Nigel. How do you place this small piece into your hive in need??

Phillip
I make plastic triangular template (margarine tub or similar) and use it to cut out a piece with eggs in from donor hive. Take a frame from recipient hive,  take same  template and cut identical piece out of frame  and replace with your cut out bit with eggs. If its too loose  half a cocktail stick will keep it in place. Major problem is wires in frame but I simply cut these.....could also use a cookie cutter at a pinch
This way it is easy to see that any queen cells here have been drawn from eggs, not 4 day larva, as can be the case.
It also means you can donate eggs to three or four hives/nucs from one frame of  your "good" queens and not really weaken the hive.
For requeening  bad girl hives you simply destroy any queen cells that are not on you implanted triangle of eggs.
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Re: What did you do in your Apiary/Bee yard today?
« Reply #686 on: April 16, 2024, 02:24:08 pm »
It all sounds interesting to me and if I get enough resources, I'd play with it. My neighbor reports that his uncle has two queens on tap for Saturday and that beats the time it would take to make a queen. I just hope his idea bo make two hives isn't too big a bite for the remaining workers. I feel like he's on borrowed time right now.

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Re: What did you do in your Apiary/Bee yard today?
« Reply #687 on: April 16, 2024, 03:54:37 pm »
And my nuc appears to be doing well. I found what I suspect is a SHB on top of the hive this morning and I whacked it but it doesn't make me feel good about them. Where there's one, there's more. They're drinking syrup like drunken sailors and have been bringing in pollen all day long. I see some stragglers coming in early, before others are going out. I expect that those are foragers who didn't make it in before curfew last night. I don't know if they're a gentle crew or if it's normal but I can sit on the wall right next to the hive and supervise them without getting harassed.

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Re: What did you do in your Apiary/Bee yard today?
« Reply #688 on: April 16, 2024, 04:32:15 pm »
I don't know if they're a gentle crew or if it's normal but I can sit on the wall right next to the hive and supervise them without getting harassed.
It's very normal, especially for a hive this small.  As long as you stay out of the flight zone, most hives will just go about their work and ignore you. 
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Re: What did you do in your Apiary/Bee yard today?
« Reply #689 on: April 17, 2024, 07:27:02 am »
>No harm in trying if you have the time and patience. Thats how we learn things.

No.  No harm.  But I don't see any way it can succeed.
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Re: What did you do in your Apiary/Bee yard today?
« Reply #690 on: April 17, 2024, 07:49:12 am »
>No harm in trying if you have the time and patience. Thats how we learn things.

No.  No harm.  But I don't see any way it can succeed.
What do  you see as the failure point(s)? If I ever decide to give it a go, I'd keep them in mind. BTW, I'm known to do things umm...errr....eeeehhh...differently than other people. :cool: I hear, "That's not exactly how I would do that", a lot.

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Re: What did you do in your Apiary/Bee yard today?
« Reply #691 on: April 17, 2024, 08:08:37 am »
You could possibly cut out a small section of comb with eggs for him, which won't have a major impact on your new hive. I do this quite frequently when requeening and it seems to work well.
I was wondering about something like that. Thanks, I'll look into that. Could a few eggs possible be picked out with a dental pic and placed into his comb?

Not quite like NigelP method; I learned this from a Fellow in another country a few years ago.

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A unique way to develop queens.

<<on: April 24, 2020, 02:06:10 pm >>

With the recent talk of queen rearing and grafting, I have decided to share the following. I am learning form a fellow in the middle east, (Turkey), that raises queens differently from anyone that I have studied anywhere in the world. Translation of languages on google sure helps! What he does is place the queen in a queen excluder cage that holds an empty brood frame. placing this right back in the hive. When the larva is the right age, and all will be the same age in each area, he removes this frame, cuts a long strip of this comb with the contained larva, shaves off a small portion of the comb face, leaving the larva automatically in a shallower cup than was original. Then, cuts these into one pieces cups separating them , placing them in a Nicot holding holder, (The pale yellow cell cup block), (the one that you would normally place the little hard pale brown cell cups in), securing these on the bar lined up as a normal nicot go round. Then he places a drop of wet wax to make sure the cups are bonded in place, then adding this set up to his cell builder, and the results are astonishing! The larva are never disturbed.

Phillip


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Re: What did you do in your Apiary/Bee yard today?
« Reply #692 on: April 17, 2024, 08:21:50 am »
Loose debris in a cell, including loose eggs, get removed (possibly consumed).  When the queen lays an egg it's glued to the bottom standing upright.  I don't know how to glue it in such a way as to not damage it.  Even one that is still glued to the bottom (i.e. in queen cells or in cells turned sideways as in the Hopkins method) just get removed if they are not needed for queens and not already larvae.  With a Jenter system I have "grafted" (removed the plug in the bottom and put it into a plastic cell cup) larvae and they remove them.  With the Hopkins method you turn a comb flatways.  Again, when attempting to use eggs, they just remove them.
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Re: What did you do in your Apiary/Bee yard today?
« Reply #693 on: April 17, 2024, 09:29:26 am »
Aaaah, ok, thanks for that explanation.

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Re: What did you do in your Apiary/Bee yard today?
« Reply #694 on: April 17, 2024, 12:07:33 pm »
Hi Folks,

I bought two 25 pound bags of sugar today, for the house, the bees and the hummingbirds.

Walmart. $19.97 each bag.

Last time I remember getting it I was looking for forty-seven cents a pound. My, how time flys.

Well, everyone in the chain got a raise.

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Re: What did you do in your Apiary/Bee yard today?
« Reply #695 on: April 18, 2024, 02:45:45 pm »
I just deleted the last couple of posts.  Please keep political talk out of the bee sections.  Feel free to discuss further in the Coffee House. 
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Re: What did you do in your Apiary/Bee yard today?
« Reply #696 on: April 18, 2024, 04:57:41 pm »
I added a second jar of syrup and put more holes of a smaller size in the lid and so far, all is working out. I placed some 1/2" slats in there to set the jars on and put the jars off each end of the hole in the inner cover. I can see hordes of bees crawling around through the hole in the inner cover. My hive boxes all have a port on the side that I can take off and look inside and the brood box is not seeing any activity on the outside of the outer frame. I won't go into the hive for another week but is there a time frame when I should expect to see some activity on that outer frame? It was cooler today and the foragers didn't go out until after noon. I'm also seeing a few ants crawling around. Not a lot, just a few, is this a sign of an pending invasion?

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Re: What did you do in your Apiary/Bee yard today?
« Reply #697 on: April 18, 2024, 05:55:21 pm »
I just deleted the last couple of posts.  Please keep political talk out of the bee sections.  Feel free to discuss further in the Coffee House.

I apologize.
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42 And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.

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Re: What did you do in your Apiary/Bee yard today?
« Reply #698 on: April 18, 2024, 06:27:59 pm »
Me too

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Re: What did you do in your Apiary/Bee yard today?
« Reply #699 on: April 18, 2024, 06:29:50 pm »
Father Michael, Mr. Yaki

Mea maxima Culpa.

For each of you, your penance; Please say three Our Fathers and three Hail Marys .

Go forth and sin no more. Per omnia secula seculorum.

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