I am not missing the point at all. The left was unhappy but they did not storm the capitol and try and get the representatives to violate their oath. Clinton did concede. Yes, they investigated russia, How could you not when multiple appointees were lying during their confirmations. What were they trying to hide. But they accepted the constitution. I will lobby things that I don't like biden doing. So what is there was a womens march to put pressure on trump in a bid to keep him from going too far on their issues. That is nothing like not listening to courts and trying to change outcomes. It is no where near the same. Not even close.
Even on the doubts of this election. It is not a majority thinking the election was stolen. It is a minority trying to lift above their weight even if it disenfranchises the majority.
You are absolutely missing the point. Clinton did concede and then spent the next 4 years whining about how the election was stolen from her. They investigated Russia based on a lie, and the lie was born in the Clinton campaign, spread by foreign powers, and lied about by the FBI, the press, and Obama era "experts" along with dems in congress. 4 years of that crap and it came to nothing.
How could you not when multiple appointees were lying during their confirmations. What were they trying to hide.
Who lied?
So what is there was a womens march to put pressure on trump in a bid to keep him from going too far on their issues.
There was a riot. There was also the day those nutters tried to break into the supreme court, but that's OK. They had a righteous cause, right?
I don't know how old you are, but when I started voting we showed ID, proof of address, and we voted in our neighborhoods ON the day of the election. It did not take weeks to count the votes.
Even if you like vote by mail, it can be done safely. Oregon was an example of how to do it. Register ahead of time with proof of ID and address along with a signature card. Balots in by election day. Ballots counted. Done. Of course, this does not allow for much fraud and so Oregon is now proposing changes that will allow for fraud. There is no suggestion that anyone is disenfranchised by how it is now done. What would be the reason for changing things?
It is a lie that antifa or blm had any part in what happened. Trumps speech lasted 90 minutes and just cause he was still talking does not mean his words did not stir it up.
There is no law against stirring things up. Stirring things up was what the great orators of our past did! The first amendment is specifically meant to protect political speech. Incitement has a specific definition as does insurrection. While I will agree with you that BLM and Antifa were not the main players, there were most certainly some of both in the crowd. At least one BLM member has been arrested. At least on Antifa member has been ID'd. The main fault goes to those Q nutters.
Compare the reaction to a couple of hours of what really was mostly peaceful, to the reaction of months of rioting, looting, murder, and burning. It is still going on here. It should not matter where it happens. Federal and state properties belong to the people. None are holy, not even the capital. Private property is someones life and hard work. Even so, these SHs have been allowed to run in the streets destroying whatever they come across and killing people.
My point is that you can't have a standard for one group of people and then be surprised when another group acts the same way. It is all equally bad and should all be treated in the same way.
All the authorities still say russia did interfere in the election but trump still got seated.
It is interesting that the friend of the left, Russia, is all of a sudden the bogyman. You guys are late to the party. Not surprising, as Obama didn't get it either and laughed at Romney for suggesting that Russia was the enemy. Russia has and always will try to interfere in our elections and our politics and they will always try to destroy us from within. Just as has always happened, the left is a willing accomplice. Russia could not have had a better result over the last 4 years than the one handed to them by the left. China interferes, lots of countries interfere. WE interfere in other elections. It is the game that has been played since the beginning of kingdomes.
Biden won the election. There was not conspiracy in three or five states and all the courts that trump would need to be able to say he won
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Biden may well have won. Again, not the point. We need to have elections that are trusted by the losers, not the winners. We don't have that and have not had that for quite a while. The proposed changes to make voting even less secure is not going to fix the issues. The left did not trust that Hillary lost. They did not trust that (thank God) Gore lost. In fact, 3 times in the last 20 years the Dems have challenged the electoral college results, so the fact that some republicans were going to do the same should not shock anyone.
Trump should have been impeached over ukrane but the republicans have decided getting power by any means is ok.
On what grounds would you have had him impeached over Ukraine? I watched that entire testimony and the longer it went, the more it fell apart. We also now know that one of the witnesses was involved in the Russia crap. That would be Fiona Hill.
Look, there is far more to all of this than Trumps tweeting. There was an absolute panic in the intel agencies when he was elected. Impeachment was mentioned before he'd been in office one day. We already know a bit of what was going on because of the Snowden theft of intel, and Brennan and Clappers lies to congress. If any people should be in jail it's those two. When Trump promised to drain the swamp and hired Flynn to do it, that was the taper to the woodpile for those who have worked without a leash since 2001. There is far more to this story and there are people, including the leftist press who will do anything to keep us from knowing it all.
I believe you need more balanced sources of info. If I turned on MSNBC I would hear your words coming out of their mouths. The echo chamber is comfortable, but deceptive.
And let me ask you one more thing. What do you think will be the result of the press and the left telling 47ish million people that they are terrorists, need to be deprogrammed, and should never be allowed to hold office or even a job if they voted for Trump? If this is the position of the party in power, I think we are pretty much done...but that might be the goal anyway. it is certainly the stated goal of some of the new and vocal people in congress.
