Cider's ?safer? gun free home.

[Ben Framed]

That is right Mr Bush, 1992. The year Clinton defeated read my lips George HW Bush. If President Bush was you kn I mean no offense to you. I should have said Wal-Mart not Sam. Sam seemed to always put America First as that was his theme. Made is the USA .

[Acebird]

If you go to work in a union place, you must join the union.  I chose NOT to work in union run places because I found them to be more efficient.

Duh, what I said.  No one is forced to take a union job unless it is a government job that is unionized.

[Ben Framed]

If you go to work in a union place, you must join the union.  I chose NOT to work in union run places because I found them to be more efficient.

Duh, what I said.  No one is forced to take a union job unless it is a government job that is unionized.

    Ah haa Haa Haaaa  Ace, that was funny!!! Thanks for the smile..... 

[Acebird]

another reason I am happy to have  President Trump instead of Mitt Romney, John McCain, Obama, or Clinton. No brainer for the average hard working American. 

I have yet to see where Trump has helped the american worker unless you are talking about a family member.  I have seen many who he hurt.

[Ben Framed]

another reason I am happy to have  President Trump instead of Mitt Romney, John McCain, Obama, or Clinton. No brainer for the average hard working American. 

I have yet to see where Trump has helped the american worker unless you are talking about a family member.  I have seen many who he hurt.

Well Fox News says different...   

[Acebird]

Debate requires that you support your position.

When it is not common knowledge.

[Acebird]

Well Fox News says different... 

LMAO that is a laugh.

Kathy, is this the kind of support you are looking for?

[Ben Framed]

Well Fox News says different... 

LMAO that is a laugh.

 

[Ben Framed]

Well Fox News says different... 

LMAO that is a laugh.

Kathy, is this the kind of support you are looking for?

    I figured you would like that Ace....  I am glad to see you finally put your reading glasses on, perhaps it will help you see things more clearly. If only we could convince you to wear your hearing aids to help you hear the truth clearly, and go ahead and clear your nose and smell the roses...   

[CoolBees]

I have yet to see where Trump has helped the american worker ...  I have seen many who he hurt.

I have not seen a single American Worker that Trump has hurt - but I've seen 10's of 1,000's that he's helped immensely. Business is finally coming back (after the Bush/Clinton/Bush/O-Bummer disasters). Quality of life is improving everywhere I look. Jobs and Business are picking up. We are finally getting some serious Hope & Change that we have needed so badly - - that's the view from the people I meet every day ... I'm really not sure what circles you walk in Ace, to have such a dim view of his achievements - the Media mayhaps? 

[Kathyp]

When it is not common knowledge.

Nope.  You have made statements.  You are required to back them with something if you want to call it a debate.  There are all kinds of things that have been "common knowlege" and have been wrong.  CW is often wrong.

If you can't support your position, then it's not debate, it's just an argument and that's a waste of time.

[Acebird]

Quality of life is improving everywhere I look.

https://www.numbeo.com/quality-of-life/rankings_by_country.jsp
Super!!! Thirteenth place.  I thought the babbling fool said America first.  Although Trump is not the only one who is the cause for Americas demise in quality of life he certainly is a main contributor.  The actual cause is the drain of our revenue for the military budget trying to be the police force for the world.  We are still fighting ground wars that don't work.

[Acebird]

When it is not common knowledge.

You are required to back them with something if you want to call it a debate.

Forget where you are this a BS forum.  What a credible source is to you is not to me.  I couldn't convince you you are wrong if I had a signed decree from the Pope.

[Kathyp]

Thirteenth place.

According to?  And we take their word why? On what do they base their ranking?

Forget where you are this a BS forum.  What a credible source is to you is not to me.  I couldn't convince you you are wrong if I had a signed decree from the Pope.

Well, you could try, but instead, you make declarations and make no attempt to back them.  I would respect the attempt even if you used BS sources. 

[Michael Bush]

For those who think the world is on a downhill slide:
https://thefederalist.com/2019/09/25/here-are-a-bunch-of-charts-that-prove-the-world-is-better-than-ever/

[Ben Framed]

For those who think the world is on a downhill slide:
https://thefederalist.com/2019/09/25/here-are-a-bunch-of-charts-that-prove-the-world-is-better-than-ever/

This is an excellent article. Every American should see this and it should be exposed in every school. I would go even further in suggesting your post being placed in the white section above, right under,  Welcome to the Second Amendment heading posted in white perhaps under a new heading title of your choice. Thanks for posting.

[Acebird]

According to?  And we take their word why? On what do they base their ranking?

Like I said you don't want any supporting documents you want to argue.  Which is OKay I can play along.

[Acebird]

For those who think the world is on a downhill slide:

If the charts were published by an extremely left magazine would they look the same using the same data?

[iddee]

It looks, from your link, it started dropping in2014, and was down to 13th in 2016.n Then in 2017, Trump brought it up to 9th until the dems took the house in 2018. Then it started back down and hit 13th when all the witch hunts hit top speed.

Good link, Ace.

[incognito]

The actual cause is the drain of our revenue for the military budget trying to be the police force for the world.

https://www.usgovernmentspending.com/spending_chart_2009_2029USp_30t
According to this website, military spending as a % of GDP has decreased but is expected to increase but not as high as is was in 2010. (Ranging from approximately 4% to 5.5% of GDP)

Unfortunately , the United States is addicted to its government, representing 36% of GDP according to the website.

So a significant cut in government spending will increase unemployment until those workers are absorbed into the rest of the economy. I refer to government spending as workfare.
Go back to your economics text books and reread about the multiplier effect. Workfare (to a point) is good for the economy. That is one of the benefits of NASA.
And so there is no confusion, I would prefer a much smaller central government - some day. It will be painful getting there.

The bigger problem IMHO is perpetual deficit spending. It is immoral for us to ask our children and grandchildren to pay for the stuff we are getting today.