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MEMBER & GUEST INTERACTION SECTION => THE 2ND AMENDMENT => Topic started by: Ben Framed on September 04, 2019, 10:01:49 pm

Title: Vladimir Lenin
Post by: Ben Framed on September 04, 2019, 10:01:49 pm
?Our power does not know liberty or justice. It is established on the destruction of the individual will.?

Vladimir Lenin
Title: Re: Vladimir Lenin
Post by: jalentour on September 04, 2019, 11:57:31 pm
What's your point?
Title: Re: Vladimir Lenin
Post by: Ben Framed on September 05, 2019, 03:47:33 am
What's your point?

?Our power does not know liberty or justice. It is established on the destruction of the individual will.?

Vladimir Lenin


?One man with a gun can control 100 without one.?
Vladimir Lenin

Does this not also mean than 100 men without a gun can be controlled with just one with a gun? Sure it does. Yet many are ready give up their right to keep and bear arms. The Second Amendment. 

The point is, why would anyone with half a brain, want to loose their freedom to such a philosophy?  The philosophy of Lenin, or any other philosophy? The Second Amendment guarantees us at least a fair chance against such philosophies.  Many peoples will; seem to be broken already. Benjamin Franklin once said: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Title: Re: Vladimir Lenin
Post by: CoolBees on September 05, 2019, 01:21:55 pm
Phillip, it is my observation  (for right or wrong) that many people today live their life scared. And because of this, they willingly subscribe to handing over other people's freedoms for their own feeling of security. Fear is sold daily on the evening news. It is sold in movies. And in commercials. And in many books now.

I don't have this fear. I don't watch TV, or "browse" the Internet. I'm picky when choosing movies, and careful about which books I read. ... but I observe this constant fear in others around me.

When I hike into Grizzly country, I am not afraid. I am properly equipped, practiced, knowledgeable, and alert. ... but I observe that many people today would faint at the thought of such a thing. Their life is smooth - too easy - and they desperately want it to stay that way, at any price.

I'm not talking about anyone here on Beemaster, but rather the general population at large - as I meet and observe them.

These are [some of] my observations. ... for discussion purposes only. Cheers!  :cool:
Title: Re: Vladimir Lenin
Post by: Ben Framed on September 05, 2019, 05:23:30 pm
Phillip, it is my observation  (for right or wrong) that many people today live their life scared. And because of this, they willingly subscribe to handing over other people's freedoms for their own feeling of security. Fear is sold daily on the evening news. It is sold in movies. And in commercials. And in many books now.

I don't have this fear. I don't watch TV, or "browse" the Internet. I'm picky when choosing movies, and careful about which books I read. ... but I observe this constant fear in others around me.

When I hike into Grizzly country, I am not afraid. I am properly equipped, practiced, knowledgeable, and alert. ... but I observe that many people today would faint at the thought of such a thing. Their life is smooth - too easy - and they desperately want it to stay that way, at any price.

I'm not talking about anyone here on Beemaster, but rather the general population at large - as I meet and observe them.

These are [some of] my observations. ... for discussion purposes only. Cheers!  :cool:

Good points Alan
Title: Re: Vladimir Lenin
Post by: Ben Framed on November 17, 2019, 09:20:46 am
Phillip, it is my observation  (for right or wrong) that many people today live their life scared. And because of this, they willingly subscribe to handing over other people's freedoms for their own feeling of security. Fear is sold daily on the evening news. It is sold in movies. And in commercials. And in many books now.

I don't have this fear. I don't watch TV, or "browse" the Internet. I'm picky when choosing movies, and careful about which books I read. ... but I observe this constant fear in others around me.

When I hike into Grizzly country, I am not afraid. I am properly equipped, practiced, knowledgeable, and alert. ... but I observe that many people today would faint at the thought of such a thing. Their life is smooth - too easy - and they desperately want it to stay that way, at any price.

I'm not talking about anyone here on Beemaster, but rather the general population at large - as I meet and observe them.

These are [some of] my observations. ... for discussion purposes only. Cheers!  :cool:

Good points Alan

Again I must quote Benjamin Franklin  a very wise man and one of our Founding Fathers.
Quoting
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."