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Offline Bush_84

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Re: Experience bee keeper reacts to bee sting.
« Reply #20 on: January 29, 2018, 01:29:11 pm »
This is because you are developing a 'sensitivity' to bee venom.  You may want to talk to your doctor before you have a full anaphylactic reaction.

Having even a huge local reaction does not increase you odds of an anaphylactic reaction. Don?t waste your time with a clinic bill.
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Re: Experience bee keeper reacts to bee sting.
« Reply #21 on: January 29, 2018, 04:52:26 pm »
JackM,
Was it you that posted several years ago that you were helping a newbee inspect her hives and a frame dropped and you were stung several times. The next thing you knew was waking up to paramedics?
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Re: Experience bee keeper reacts to bee sting.
« Reply #22 on: January 29, 2018, 05:50:32 pm »

Jes' something to thonk about for those focused on MD/GP advice (s)
on venom reactions. As with snakes also it is usual to find advice from
the general publc mirrors that medicos have gleaned from teachings,
not from actual experience on the ground.
In Aussie we have a group known as "Allied Professionals".
Without recounting anecdotes of some scale I do say it is this group advice
should be taken from as it works. It works because these people have
frontline experience and cannot bury their mistakes... they get fired and cannot
usually work again.
One of these effectively saved my Life with her attention to detail not
one GP overlooked/dismissed but several, and a number of those
being "specialists" in the cardiac field.

So before absorbing guggle.com and accepting a prescription drug
from the GP, get seen by a clinician... it may save you a lot of worry, and money.

Bill

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Re: Experience bee keeper reacts to bee sting.
« Reply #23 on: January 30, 2018, 09:26:06 am »
JackM,
Was it you that posted several years ago that you were helping a newbee inspect her hives and a frame dropped and you were stung several times. The next thing you knew was waking up to paramedics?
Jim
Nope, not me.  I don't let it get that far when I get stung and I always suit up everything.
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Re: Experience bee keeper reacts to bee sting.
« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2018, 09:28:07 am »
This is because you are developing a 'sensitivity' to bee venom.  You may want to talk to your doctor before you have a full anaphylactic reaction.

Having even a huge local reaction does not increase you odds of an anaphylactic reaction. Don?t waste your time with a clinic bill.
I disagree strongly.  Have a medical professional evaluate.  Are you a doctor/nurse/Paramedic Bush_84?  What is your medical training to claim seeking medical advice is not necessary?
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Re: Experience bee keeper reacts to bee sting.
« Reply #25 on: January 30, 2018, 09:48:25 am »
A guy I knew growing up was doing some hobby beekeeping, he'd been doing it since he was a kid with his grandpa, so stung many times. Now in his mid thirties he got stung one day and had a anaphylactic reaction, doctor told him his body was saying it had had enough.

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Re: Experience bee keeper reacts to bee sting.
« Reply #26 on: January 30, 2018, 04:23:55 pm »
This is because you are developing a 'sensitivity' to bee venom.  You may want to talk to your doctor before you have a full anaphylactic reaction.

Having even a huge local reaction does not increase you odds of an anaphylactic reaction. Don?t waste your time with a clinic bill.
I disagree strongly.  Have a medical professional evaluate.  Are you a doctor/nurse/Paramedic Bush_84?  What is your medical training to claim seeking medical advice is not necessary?

You can do whatever you want but I?m a pa that works in an er. So I?m not some clueless bum. Most people are just lazy and will give anybody an epipen, however have a large local reaction is not an indication for an epipen or immunotherapy. You will likely continue to get large local relations if you have experienced one but it does not mean you are on your way towards anaphylaxis.

Edit-sorry for the typos. Typing is impossible on my phone and going back is a pain lol.
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Re: Experience bee keeper reacts to bee sting.
« Reply #27 on: January 30, 2018, 05:54:22 pm »
How does a bee sting allergy develop? Is it gradual or just a one time bam you got it now type thing?

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Re: Experience bee keeper reacts to bee sting.
« Reply #28 on: January 30, 2018, 06:24:58 pm »
How does a bee sting allergy develop? Is it gradual or just a one time bam you got it now type thing?

It?s generally a bam kind of thing. You do require an exposure. So you will not develop an allergy from your first sting. You may be stung and develop a sensitivity to the venom and you won?t know it until your next sting. Your immune system has a long memory as well. I don?t think it?s known why all of a sudden your immune system is sensitized even after having had a number of previous exposures. It?s like penicillin. I see tons of reactions to various penicillins when they had been on it multiple times over their lives.

IMO each exposure is a risk. Therefore the more you are exposed the more risk you are exposed to. You certainly won?t find me without a suit and gloves, although more power to those who feel comfortable without it.
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Re: Experience bee keeper reacts to bee sting.
« Reply #29 on: January 31, 2018, 09:13:50 am »
Bush_84,
Well you have the medical background.  I still feel they need to go to their PCP (not the ER) and have an eval if suddenly they are having worse reactions and you should also feel that they need to see PCP for eval if you work in ER, but they do not need ER.  If that is what you are trying to say.  No offense meant, difference of medical opinion I suppose.
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Re: Experience bee keeper reacts to bee sting.
« Reply #30 on: January 31, 2018, 09:22:22 am »
How does a bee sting allergy develop? Is it gradual or just a one time bam you got it now type thing?
One of the triggers to having a severe reaction is being exposed to bee venom in the power form, from venom on clothes, and not being stung. Spouses of beekeepers often have severe reactions from handling the beekeeper?s clothing.
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Re: Experience bee keeper reacts to bee sting.
« Reply #31 on: January 31, 2018, 10:36:33 am »
How does a bee sting allergy develop? Is it gradual or just a one time bam you got it now type thing?
One of the triggers to having a severe reaction is being exposed to bee venom in the power form, from venom on clothes, and not being stung. Spouses of beekeepers often have severe reactions from handling the beekeeper?s clothing.
Jim

That seems odd to me. Is there some science lit to back that up or what?

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Re: Experience bee keeper reacts to bee sting.
« Reply #32 on: January 31, 2018, 01:20:50 pm »
It is a warning that has been around for a while. Tha husband of a friend that has depended on bee stings to live for the last 28 years had it happen to him. He washed her clothes. I talked her into getting her own bees when the beekeeper she was buying jars of bees from retired. She used bee stings with a Epipen available to desensitize him. She started with removing the sting immediately and slowly worked toward full stings. He now takes care of the bees.
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Re: Experience bee keeper reacts to bee sting.
« Reply #33 on: February 01, 2018, 06:46:29 pm »
Interesting. Well I will take that into consideration but being single and doing my own laundry I am probably safe.

 

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