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Offline tycrnp

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Honey in the Brood box
« on: July 15, 2017, 03:06:37 pm »
My bees seem to be filling the brood box with honey.  There are several frames with BIAS, but a few frames that are just honey, mostly capped. There are a few empty frames, so they have room for more brood. 

Each set up is 1 brood box and 1 super (10 frames each). In 1 hive there is NOTHING in the super, the other hives they are just starting to put honey in the supers.  Should I be concerned? Should I remove the capped honey so they have more room for brood?

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Re: Honey in the Brood box
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2017, 03:13:57 pm »
If there is still empty drawn comb I would not bother them. They have been taking care of themselves for more than 100 million years. No need to worry, as long as you have space, they will bee ok.
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Re: Honey in the Brood box
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2017, 06:59:19 pm »
But they haven't had queen excluders in their home for 100 million years. If you have excluders, that could be your problem.
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Re: Honey in the Brood box
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2017, 01:19:47 am »
I do have queen excluders. I removed them for a couple of weeks because I had read that might help get them in the super, but then I attended a local meeting and they all said I should put them back. So I did.

I had seen  a Fat Bee Man video where he recommended getting the honey out of the brood box to allow the colony to grow before going into winter .

As Jim said, I guess I shouldn't worry. Our winters are so mild here that I probably don't need to worry about them having huge stores of honey to overwinter.

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Re: Honey in the Brood box
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2017, 02:34:41 am »
"I attended a local meeting and they all said I should put them back. So I did"

Take this response back to your local for verification.
Excluders go in where there is a flow predicted _and_ you choose to harvest
honey that season.
Where you do not harvest, leave them out.
For newer colonies, which I read this one is, it is maybe best to leave the
colony to fill both supers with stores and leave to winter, resetting to honey
production in the second year.
10,000 miles away the above is SOP for new colonies which are not used for
migration beekeeping.
Maybe the same fits your local model.

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Re: Honey in the Brood box
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2017, 03:57:23 am »
But they haven't had queen excluders in their home for 100 million years.

Very true.  They also have never had brood combs, nor supers.  Just combs.  Dividing the combs up into different purposes is very much a recent human invention.
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Re: Honey in the Brood box
« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2017, 06:18:16 am »
"Dividing the combs up into different purposes is very much a recent human invention."

Surmising that view points to a specific circumstance I point the reader
towards what is generally moreso the case when bees are left to be bees.

The narration within the link I extracted the attached pix from describes
what I have found on opening many a wild hive in trees or in manmade
structures, including old boiler tube.

http://tinypic.com/r/1gtb9y/9
from: https://m.you tube.com/watch?v=iA59EfWDdHQ

Cheers.

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