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Offline Hops Brewster

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Re: New England forest questions
« Reply #40 on: July 10, 2017, 10:57:39 am »
from your own source:
1.Antarctic sea ice extent is increasing (just as I said)
2.Antarctic land ice mass is decreasing (as it did a few hundred years ago)
3.Arctic sea ice extent is pretty much staying consistent
4.Arctic land ice mass is decreasing (as it did a few hundred years ago)


Climate, sea ice, sea temps, etc etc etc, are not constants.  They never have been constant and never will be constant.  Both the Arctic and Antarctic ice masses have been larger, and both have been smaller than current measurements.  Your alarmism is pointless.  Things change.   Adapt (be Darwinian).
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Re: New England forest questions
« Reply #41 on: July 10, 2017, 01:37:56 pm »
It is not a case of if it is changing it is a case that the trend is warming and warming in unison with the increased amount of CO2 that we keep pumping out into the atmosphere.
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Re: New England forest questions
« Reply #42 on: July 10, 2017, 08:13:14 pm »
Brian,
CO2 is only 2% of atmospheric. Water can and does hold a lot more heat than CO2. Shouldn't we be more worried about the water in the air?
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Re: New England forest questions
« Reply #43 on: July 11, 2017, 08:49:15 am »
http://www.co2science.org/subject/questions/1998/greenhouse.php
We have no control directly on how much water is in the atmosphere but we do with CO2.
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Re: New England forest questions
« Reply #44 on: July 11, 2017, 10:21:42 am »
It is not a case of if it is changing it is a case that the trend is warming and warming in unison with the increased amount of CO2 that we keep pumping out into the atmosphere.
Which is exactly the point of my 'thumb on the scale' post.  The data that NASA et al are using is stacking up errors.. rounding up figures.  Therefore, the data is wrong and their models are wrong.    That is not science, but LACK of science.
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Re: New England forest questions
« Reply #45 on: July 11, 2017, 10:26:25 am »
http://www.co2science.org/subject/questions/1998/greenhouse.php
We have no control directly on how much water is in the atmosphere but we do with CO2.
We only have control over a portion of the CO2 in the atmosphere.  Most of it is produced naturally from living things and geological actions.  Unless you live in California.  If you live in California, you apparently have control over how much CO2 and methane your cattle expel.  Their insane enviro-mental laws say so.
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Re: New England forest questions
« Reply #46 on: July 11, 2017, 02:27:52 pm »
The data that NASA et al are using is stacking up errors.. rounding up figures.

I trust them not you.
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Re: New England forest questions
« Reply #47 on: July 11, 2017, 02:29:55 pm »
Unless you live in California.  If you live in California, you apparently have control over how much CO2 and methane your cattle expel.

If cows were grazed on grass instead of corn methane emissions would go down.
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Re: New England forest questions
« Reply #48 on: July 11, 2017, 07:09:18 pm »
Unless you live in California.  If you live in California, you apparently have control over how much CO2 and methane your cattle expel.

If cows were grazed on grass instead of corn methane emissions would go down.


     You do realize Dairy cows put out more product on cornmeal then they do on grass.


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Re: New England forest questions
« Reply #49 on: July 12, 2017, 09:39:31 am »
>Sorry, I believe the scientist who make it their life of these studies.

http://dailycaller.com/2016/02/16/propoganda-top-mit-climate-scientist-trashes-97-consensus-claim/
http://reason.com/blog/2017/01/04/georgia-tech-climatologist-judith-curry

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Re: New England forest questions
« Reply #50 on: July 12, 2017, 10:37:45 am »
It is not a case of if it is changing it is a case that the trend is warming and warming in unison with the increased amount of CO2 that we keep pumping out into the atmosphere.
We have already established that the "warming trend" in the data you reference comes from the 'scientists' practice of rounding up the data, a truly unscientific method.
NASA's own reports show no significant warming trend in over a decade.  Global temps have been relatively stable, with minor variations.  Their scientists are at a loss to explain why their predictive models have been so wrong.
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Re: New England forest questions
« Reply #51 on: July 12, 2017, 05:02:47 pm »
>Sorry, I believe the scientist who make it their life of these studies.

http://dailycaller.com/2016/02/16/propoganda-top-mit-climate-scientist-trashes-97-consensus-claim/
http://reason.com/blog/2017/01/04/georgia-tech-climatologist-judith-curry

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