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Mark Thomas:
--- Quote from: Michael Bush on October 27, 2013, 09:15:13 pm ---It will kill off the bacteria that live in the gut of the bee and protect them from Nosema, AFB, EFB and chalkbrood and probably interfere with the yeast and bacteria used to make bee bread...
http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0033188
And other possible effects when you kill the bacteria and yeasts:
http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0026796
On the other hand IF they already had Nosema, it might help with that. If they do NOT, however, it will make them more susceptible...
--- End quote ---
I concur. I made 10 Kombucha Starters with White Sugar by Accident.. Zero out of 10 started. The first starters I ever made (Not using Raw Cane Sugar). Whatever they use to make it white (bleach?), it wiped out the Microbiome in the starter liquid I used to start the starters...
I have always wondered about feeding Sugar water. Always stayed away from it, except in Critical circumstances.
Now, I wonder if the Bees would like Milk or Water Kefir and/or Kombucha.. It would surely give their gut a boost after feeding Sugar Syrup... Easy enough to test.. I put Milk Kefir and Kombucha in my fruit fly traps.. I bet they would like it.. And, it would surely add Lacto and Biffido back to their gut..
I am just starting after 6 years of not raising bees. Lacking resources. Had one what I think is Feral bees move into one of my hives 5 years ago.. They have been doing great, no help from me. Last year, I put a couple of supers on the hive and they filled them up.. I waited until this Spring during the flow to pull them. They are already stocked for the winter(One full Short Super on a Single Deep Body).
And, I started late in June trying to get them back down in the Deeps, from laying in the first two supers.. Not many resources at this point, so, not trying to make more queens, etc yet.. It rained the whole month of May and really slowed these guys down.
If they will take some Kombucha or Kefir, I won't mind giving them some 1:1 Sucrose and some Essential Oils to get them kick started.. But, will give them a gut booster before things get cool.. Hope that thought works. I would really like to keep a set of these guys.. They started off really friendly, but, over the last month have gotten my immunity to bee stings back in proper order.. Ha..Ha...
Our Immune System starts in our Gut. It is the basis of it. A top notch Gut Flora will keep you running in good condition, give you energy, etc.. My 86 year old Mother and I experiment with all things gut related. One of the best things we did was get on an Anti Parasite Routine following the New and Full Moon Cycles for 3 months.. Cleared up some minor issues unexpectedly.. Cheers!
Ben Framed:
Mark Thomas welcome to Beemaster. Interesting first post! Thanks for joining us...
Phillip
Michael Bush:
Bees usually don't do well on anything but nectar or white sugar syrup. Solids do not do them any favors. But yes, the syrup itself will disrupt the bacteria in their gut while the HBH will outright kill it as will antibiotics etc.
BeeMaster2:
Mark, welcome to Beemaster.
Jim Altmiller
The15thMember:
Welcome to Beemaster, Mark! :happy: Myself and several other members are relatively new to fermenting and we've been discussing it on this these threads if you'd like to check them out.
https://beemaster.com/forum/index.php?topic=55733.msg510099#msg510099
https://beemaster.com/forum/index.php?topic=56565.msg518157#msg518157
https://beemaster.com/forum/index.php?topic=54563.msg528077#msg528077
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