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Offline BeeMaster2

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Caught my first swarm of 2019.
« on: February 27, 2019, 08:12:37 am »
I received a call on Sunday that bees were moving into a house. I was on the road at the time heading home so I told him it would take a while but I would be there that afternoon. As I was loading up my truck he called and said that all of the bee activity stopped. I knew a bad storm was heading his way because I had just driven through it. I told him it was probably scouts checking out his house and they really liked it. He wanted me to come any way and would pay for the visit. I told him we needed to seal up the 2 areas the bees were going in. Some were trying to go into connected brick columns in the front and some were going into the brick chimney in the back. He sent me these 2 pictures.






 I went there and sure enough the bees were not there. We agreed that I would setup swarm traps. As sooner were they set, the scouts started coming back. It was still very cloudy and getting late so I was not expecting a swarm that night. We agreed that I should seal up the 2 areas real tight and he agreed to the additional price. I worked until sun set and sealed up both places. He only had part of the money so I told him I could get the rest when I came back. On Monday he called and sent me a picture of bees bearding on the Nuc. I went there that evening and picked them up. Bare in mind he and his wise are deathly afraid of bees. He told me he didn?t have the rest of the money so we agreed I would get it when I picked up the second trap.
The next morning I received the following message.

I was talking to my wife last night and we felt that because you were able to get a colony that we could maybe waive the other 40. I felt I didn?t communicate effectively that we didn?t have more than the 60 I gave you originally and I was only prepared for the initial cost you told me over the phone. Also, if you want the other hive to stay I feel it?s only fair that we get payment for use of the land in potential of attracting more bees. Something to think about. I know you all will get product from them so I think the initial price we discussed would be more than fine. Thank you.

I still haven?t answered him. I?m still pretty T-ed.
Jim
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Re: Caught my first swarm of 2019.
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2019, 09:20:33 am »
Crooks, crooks, and more crooks. I know this wouldn't be ethical, but for fun thinking, What if you were to go back, un-seal the first two holes, add a drop or two of leamon grass at each entrance (as a deterrent), :wink:    Open the catch box, woops make an effort as to trip, flip it upside down and then give it a good shake, hollering,  RUN FOR YOUR LIFE! Say so long, Mr Crook!
Now,  I wouldn't do this and I'm not suggesting it but wouldn't that be funny!!  :grin:
« Last Edit: February 27, 2019, 09:31:23 am by Ben Framed »
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Re: Caught my first swarm of 2019.
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2019, 10:08:17 am »
Ben is close, but wrong. Go and pick up your box so it doesn't get destroyed. Tell him he agreed to the price beforehand. Since he thinks the bees are so valuable, you will unseal the openings and release the queen into one of them.The other bees will follow her and he can reap all the profits from the colony.
I have done this a few times and always received my money. PRONTO
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Re: Caught my first swarm of 2019.
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2019, 10:58:20 am »
Quote from: iddee on February 27, 2019, 10:08:17 am
Ben is close, but wrong. Go and pick up your box so it doesn't get destroyed. Tell him he agreed to the price beforehand. Since he thinks the bees are so valuable, you will unseal the openings and release the queen into one of them.The other bees will follow her and he can reap all the profits from the colony.
I have done this a few times and always received my money. PRONTO

Ha haa, yes, releasing the queen into the opening will be a sure thing. I was hypothetically, jokingly. relying on her to go there voluntarily following the scent of the leamongrass oil. (After the accident of the dropped box), Your right iddee if we are to do it, do it right !!  :wink:   It is sad that there are crooks like this. We can deal with 20 good folks and one crook can put a bad tast in the mouth and attempt to ruin our wonderful day. Be of good cheer Jim. We know who is our keeper. It is impossible but that offences will come: but woe unto him, through whom they come.
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Re: Caught my first swarm of 2019.
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2019, 11:45:02 am »
Jim, sorry you have to deal with such people.  You were honest, you proposed solution at agreed price.  You carry out your end of the agreement and now the fella holds back money with irrationally as justification.

I am sorry you have to deal with this sort of thing, Jim.  I would be Xxxxx off too.  It is the principle:  agreement, conduct work according and then get in the back.  Yes Sir, I would be xxx.

Jim, Let us know what you decide.
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« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2019, 12:40:06 pm »
BF, the difference is, you said do it. I said threaten and get your money, but keep the bees.
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Re: Caught my first swarm of 2019.
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2019, 03:08:56 pm »
Jim, that's really sad. People like that don't go far in this life - life has a way of dealing with them.

Congrats on the swarm though.  :grin:

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Re: Caught my first swarm of 2019.
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2019, 03:31:47 pm »
I would take all the bees and shake them out in front of their door and leave...
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Re: Caught my first swarm of 2019.
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2019, 04:34:55 pm »
Thanks for the feedback. I will probably compose an answer tonight and send it.
Jim
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Re: Caught my first swarm of 2019.
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2019, 05:04:39 pm »
Quote from: sawdstmakr on February 27, 2019, 04:34:55 pm
Thanks for the feedback. I will probably compose an answer tonight and send it.
Jim

Don't take me literally Jim, I was kidding as an effort to cheer you up.  :happy:
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Re: Caught my first swarm of 2019.
« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2019, 05:08:15 pm »
Nah. When something like this happens, I take my time responding. I wait until I cool down. Then I responded in a nice but direct way.
Jim
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Re: Caught my first swarm of 2019.
« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2019, 05:10:22 pm »
Quote from: Michael Bush on February 27, 2019, 03:31:47 pm
I would take all the bees and shake them out in front of their door and leave...

That is a good one, Mr. Bush, short and sweet justice.  You forgot one thing though......ring the doorbell.
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Re: Caught my first swarm of 2019.
« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2019, 05:12:49 pm »
Quote from: Stinger13 on February 27, 2019, 05:10:22 pm
Quote from: Michael Bush on February 27, 2019, 03:31:47 pm
I would take all the bees and shake them out in front of their door and leave...

That is a good one, Mr. Bush, short and sweet justice.  You forgot one thing though......ring the doorbell.
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Re: Caught my first swarm of 2019.
« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2019, 08:53:09 pm »
Here is my reply.

I don?t know why you think that you should not pay me as agreed before I started sealing up the bee areas. If I had not done that, you would probably end up having bees in your brick work. Removing bees from brick is expensive . After the Beek removes the bees and all of the comb, you would then have to hire a bricklayer to restore the bricks. Total costs would exceed $1000.
As far as charging for having the swarm trap on your property, the reason for that is to catch the next swarm in the trap instead of them moving into your house.
I will pick up the trap.

There are not a lot of beeks around here that will do bee removals from brick. If he ever calls me for a removal, it will be expensive and payment will be up front.
Jim
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Re: Caught my first swarm of 2019.
« Reply #14 on: February 27, 2019, 08:56:12 pm »
I have pick up the second swarm trap tomorrow.
Jim
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Re: Caught my first swarm of 2019.
« Reply #15 on: February 27, 2019, 09:59:18 pm »
Sorry Jim, the more and more I do cutouts and hives and cost to travel to get them it adds up.  I was trying to get gas money for swarms, but have been getting volunteer Hours for some others, I do love mr bush?s Answer.
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Re: Caught my first swarm of 2019.
« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2019, 12:03:30 am »
That was very good Jim. You handled it in a gentlemanly way. Well done.
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Re: Caught my first swarm of 2019.
« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2019, 12:26:57 am »
I received a text from him this evening. He said he will pay the $40 when we pick up the second swarm trap.
Jim
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« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2019, 12:28:12 am »
Quote from: sawdstmakr on February 28, 2019, 12:26:57 am
I received a text from him this evening. He said he will pay the $40 when we pick up the second swarm trap.
Jim

You handled it right Jim.
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Re: Caught my first swarm of 2019.
« Reply #19 on: February 28, 2019, 12:35:02 am »
 :happy:
Thanks.
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