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BEEKEEPING LEARNING CENTER => EQUIPMENT USAGE, EXPERIMENTATION, HIVE PLANS, CONSTRUCTION TIPS AND TOOLS => Topic started by: Davzbeez on October 28, 2005, 01:02:44 am

Title: Cedar Super Wood?
Post by: Davzbeez on October 28, 2005, 01:02:44 am

Can supers/hive bodies be made out of cedar? I am going to make my own supers this winter.  I wanted to use cypress as I understand it is very impervious to weather.  The prices are to high for me however.  I do have a ready supply of cheap cedar lumber available.

Title: Cedar Super Wood?
Post by: Michael Bush on October 28, 2005, 08:56:18 am

Cedar makes perfectly good supers.  It's more expensive than pine, which makes just as good of a super.  I like to use the cedar for tops and bottoms which get more weather, but I have made boxes out of scrap cedar from construction sites.  They work fine.

Title: Cedar Super Wood?
Post by: Apis629 on October 28, 2005, 05:20:41 pm

Correct me if I'm wrong but doen't ceder have a sent that usually repels moths?  Could that possibly aid in prevention of wax moth infestation of stored supers?

Title: Cedar Super Wood?
Post by: Michael Bush on October 28, 2005, 08:56:04 pm

>doen't ceder have a sent that usually repels moths? Could that possibly aid in prevention of wax moth infestation of stored supers?

That's the theory, and no it doesn't.  But it does make nice boxes.

Title: Cedar Super Wood?
Post by: Apis629 on October 29, 2005, 12:36:59 am

oh, ok...'twas a thought...

Title: Cedar Super Wood?
Post by: davew26 on March 05, 2006, 11:26:30 pm

Cedar has been used for a long time to stuff dog bedding.  It does a good job of repelling ticks and fleas.  Have you noticed a reduction of Varroa mites in your cedar supers?

Thanks

Title: Cedar Super Wood?
Post by: Michael Bush on March 06, 2006, 01:18:42 pm

> Have you noticed a reduction of Varroa mites in your cedar supers?

I haven't noticed any difference in wax moths or varroa in cedar boxes.

Title: Re: Cedar Super Wood?
Post by: PABEEMAN on January 31, 2020, 12:20:26 pm

I don't believe he was looking for a reduction so it makes sense that he failed to notice a difference.  I recommend you make your own shaving and test yourself.  I plan on distilling some or getting a cedar spray oil and testing on bees with mites on their back.
JOn

Title: Re: Cedar Super Wood?
Post by: FloridaGardener on January 31, 2020, 02:36:02 pm

Ummm....honey bees have eyes facing up with no eyelids.
And many essential oils can harm human skin when undiluted. 
I sure wouldn't want to have my eyes propped open and then be soaked with concentrated cedar oil.

Title: Re: Cedar Super Wood?
Post by: Dallasbeek on January 31, 2020, 11:13:58 pm

Any oil could cause harm to bees.  Like other insects, bees' respiration is through openings in the body, not through noses.  Stop up those holes with oil and you kill the insect.  That's why oil is effective against white flies, thrips and such that are otherwise difficult to kill.  Of course, the oil has to be applied directly to an insect for that to work.  There's no residual effect, by which I mean applying oil to flowers or leaves that an insect contacts has no effect.