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Offline little john

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Re: Lots of honey, no bees
« Reply #20 on: February 20, 2018, 04:42:44 pm »
If you enlarge the bottom photograph, they can be seen quite clearly:



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Re: Lots of honey, no bees
« Reply #21 on: February 20, 2018, 04:58:49 pm »
If you enlarge the bottom photograph, they can be seen quite clearly:



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I know that one. But are they in the other comb picture too? I want to know how to ID them better.

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Re: Lots of honey, no bees
« Reply #22 on: February 20, 2018, 05:02:49 pm »
Look at the empty brood cells not the cells filled with pollen or honey.  There should be a large section of dark comb that is empty.  Frass will be on the sides and easy to see.  If there is a capped brood section look for pin holes in the cap.  The bees poke a hole in the cap to kill the brood and that kills the mites.

LJ, that doesn't look like brood come to me.  Those specks could be pollen.
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Re: Lots of honey, no bees
« Reply #23 on: February 20, 2018, 05:06:05 pm »
Learning a bit more about Varroa, as we don't have it here, Oz.
What are the white spots? I understand they indicate varroa has been there but what part of the process are they?

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Re: Lots of honey, no bees
« Reply #24 on: February 20, 2018, 05:10:20 pm »
Mite poop or pee.
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Re: Lots of honey, no bees
« Reply #25 on: February 20, 2018, 05:52:12 pm »
These are mites.

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Re: Lots of honey, no bees
« Reply #26 on: February 20, 2018, 05:55:35 pm »
These are mites.

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Yep. Now to research the care and signs when the hive is going. Any good sites for that?

Someome talked about counting. How do you check the more count?

 Apparently mites were bad last year. Even seasoned bee keepers lost lots of hives. 

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Re: Lots of honey, no bees
« Reply #27 on: February 20, 2018, 06:04:08 pm »
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Re: Lots of honey, no bees
« Reply #28 on: February 20, 2018, 06:56:14 pm »
LJ, that doesn't look like brood come to me.  Those specks could be pollen.

You don't see the similarity then ?



I've never seen pollen in a comb like that - it's either in the form of bee-bread, or ejected fine powder if pollen mites have attacked it.
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Re: Lots of honey, no bees
« Reply #29 on: February 20, 2018, 10:05:23 pm »
The problem is I can't tell if it is brood comb or honey comb from the photo.  Mites do not deposit frass in honey.  The bees would have cleaned the cell prior to depositing honey in the cell if there was brood in it prior.
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Re: Lots of honey, no bees
« Reply #30 on: February 20, 2018, 10:10:45 pm »
The problem is I can't tell if it is brood comb or honey comb from the photo.  Mites do not deposit frass in honey.  The bees would have cleaned the cell prior to depositing honey in the cell if there was brood in it prior.
All the dark comb is brood comb. The honey is in the upper corners of some of the bottom frames but mostly it's brood comb.

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Re: Lots of honey, no bees
« Reply #31 on: February 20, 2018, 10:38:30 pm »
In the close up pics, I can clearly see mites, many mites , little red critters.
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