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Offline bwallace23350

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Golden Rod
« on: August 17, 2017, 11:12:28 am »
We have had a super wet year. Already over 70 inches of rain. Will I be able to harvest some golden rod honey this year?

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Re: Golden Rod
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2017, 01:31:51 pm »
Mr. Wallace, in Arkansas there are over 20 different species of Goldenrod.  Some species like wet soil while others like dry, well drained soil.  In the US, there are over 100 species.

In Arkansas the goldenrod blooms from July through Sept on average.  This day, today, my bees are packing in pollen, several different shades of color, even though we had 3/4" rain this morning.  Go figure, I would think the pollen would have been washed off the flowers.

I'm sure in your area there will be some, at least some goldenrod, remember some species like moisture.  70 inches is awesome, maybe to awesome, I agree.  However goldenrod is a prolific plant producing lots of both nectar and pollen as you probably already know.

Have you noticed bees bringing in pollen lately???  I would say in my area, N Arkansas, the fall flow has started, judging by my bees packing pollen.
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Re: Golden Rod
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2017, 08:31:55 pm »
The Goldenrod bloom has started in earnest in NE Texas, but no bees on it.  But they are working something as they are bringing in pollen.  No one around that I have talked to has much of a honey crop and every one is blaming the unusual amount of rain, including today.  Do the bees work the Goldenrod first or is that a second choice?   

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Re: Golden Rod
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2017, 09:16:02 pm »
We have had a super wet year. Already over 70 inches of rain.
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Re: Golden Rod
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2017, 11:42:31 pm »
"Paus",
The bees work the best sources of food whether it is pollen or nectar.
If they are not working the Goldenrod, either there is a better plant or the goldenrod is not producing nectar. The second part happens a lot. This spring, there were tons of Gallberry flowers, they were working it, I saw the bees on it, but there was very little nectar.
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Re: Golden Rod
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2017, 09:47:36 am »
Mr. Wallace, in Arkansas there are over 20 different species of Goldenrod.  Some species like wet soil while others like dry, well drained soil.  In the US, there are over 100 species.

In Arkansas the goldenrod blooms from July through Sept on average.  This day, today, my bees are packing in pollen, several different shades of color, even though we had 3/4" rain this morning.  Go figure, I would think the pollen would have been washed off the flowers.

I'm sure in your area there will be some, at least some goldenrod, remember some species like moisture.  70 inches is awesome, maybe to awesome, I agree.  However goldenrod is a prolific plant producing lots of both nectar and pollen as you probably already know.

Have you noticed bees bringing in pollen lately???  I would say in my area, N Arkansas, the fall flow has started, judging by my bees packing pollen.
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I really have not worked my bees in a couple of weeks. I left them a full super of honey this year for a variety of reason's but the two main being wth all the rain I was worried about foraging and just general life business got in the way some also. Things have slowed a bit so I was hoping to get something of a small fall honey crop. Spring was a good spring for us.

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« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2017, 12:59:06 pm »
I would try the fall honey even if it is just a frame for comparison.
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Re: Golden Rod
« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2017, 02:41:39 pm »
My I repeat my earlier statement," The bees are not working sunflowers, (or goldenrod) I need more bees and my wife laughed and laughed".  Seriously is this an indication that more bees would not over load the local resources?  This has been a banner year for rain, amount and the way it fell all summer.
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« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2017, 08:37:13 am »
I've been thinking the bees have been working cotton - and they probably are. However I was checking on a goat I thought stuck it's head through the fence and when I went over there I decided to pull some Kudzu vines across the fence for them to munch on. To my surprise the kudzu was still full of blooms, just like it was a couple of weeks ago, not to my surprise the blooms were covered with honeybees.
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« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2017, 10:51:17 pm »
Lots of Golden rod bees still have something else they like better?????????????

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« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2017, 09:35:18 am »
I've been thinking the bees have been working cotton - and they probably are. However I was checking on a goat I thought stuck it's head through the fence and when I went over there I decided to pull some Kudzu vines across the fence for them to munch on. To my surprise the kudzu was still full of blooms, just like it was a couple of weeks ago, not to my surprise the blooms were covered with honeybees.

Did not know they woudl work Kudzu. Still glad I don't have any near my property though

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Re: Golden Rod
« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2017, 09:36:01 pm »
My bees are working goldenrod and joe pie weed. The joe pie weed is almost done. I can smell the honey 40 feet from the hives, even further with a breeze.

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« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2017, 03:17:56 pm »
My bees are working goldenrod and joe pie weed. The joe pie weed is almost done. I can smell the honey 40 feet from the hives, even further with a breeze.

...and the fall flow moves southward...
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« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2017, 02:39:48 pm »
I have had Golden Rod blooming for about 6 weeks and no bees working it.  Well this week I really have Golden Rod blooming and in earnest, and I saw the first bees on the blooms this morning.  I have had this place since 50's and never as many Golden Rod as there are this year.  Looking for a fall honey crop.
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« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2017, 05:47:06 pm »
Around here, Goldenrod generally starts blooming late July but is little worked until September. Very weather dependent. Too wet, too dry poor flow, but in a year like this the bees are working it like mad. Will be around till a couple a frosts kill it.

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Re: Golden Rod
« Reply #15 on: September 28, 2017, 02:10:34 pm »
Bees are hitting it hard here right now
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« Reply #16 on: September 29, 2017, 07:28:53 am »
Goldenrod is just starting to bud in my wife's wild area. We noticed it yesterday.
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Re: Golden Rod
« Reply #17 on: October 05, 2017, 09:52:54 am »
Golden Rod and Aster have been blooming for a couple of weeks in Eastern NC.

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Re: Golden Rod
« Reply #18 on: October 05, 2017, 12:24:07 pm »
It is starting to bloom really good here. If I was not so lazy I might go get me some honey

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« Reply #19 on: October 13, 2017, 09:50:38 pm »
I didn't realize that bees worked white aster as much as they do. I was walking through my field and they were 5 to 1 on aster compared to the goldenrod right next to it. They may have worked it earlier.
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« Reply #20 on: October 13, 2017, 11:13:19 pm »
The bees are finally working the goldenrod heavy.  I have a small aster like low growing plant white dime size blooms they are also working.  Where can you get bills big blue aster seed

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« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2017, 11:35:19 pm »
I just moved my bees to a friends house who has at least 2 acres of solid golden rod and
Spanish Needle in full bloom one yard away from the hives. He was afraid to allow the bees and it turns out that his wife now wants to keep a hive on his property permanently.
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Re: Golden Rod
« Reply #22 on: October 16, 2017, 11:30:31 am »
He was afraid to allow the bees........... What was he afraid of?

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« Reply #23 on: October 16, 2017, 11:30:48 am »
Our golden rod is starting to fade.

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« Reply #24 on: October 16, 2017, 04:21:51 pm »
BW, same here. Now we got robbing to watch out for. I've lost two very small nucs to robbing.
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« Reply #25 on: October 16, 2017, 06:12:16 pm »
He was afraid to allow the bees........... What was he afraid of?
The unknown. :)
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Re: Golden Rod
« Reply #26 on: November 03, 2017, 01:33:32 pm »
I am in southwest Louisiana.  Interesting what someone said above about different varieties liking or not liking lots of rain.  Didn't know that. Anyway, what we have down here likes moist soil.  If the soil is too dry it will bloom like gangbusters but not produce any nectar.  I think that could be what is going on for you folks in NE Texas.  My the same token, you probably all know that a good rain will wash pollen off of the blooms so typically you start getting some new nectar a few days after it rains.
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