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Title: GIRLS TEAR UP PLAYING FIELD IN 32 TO 3 ROUT OVER SHB TEAM!
Post by: FloridaGardener on May 22, 2019, 03:12:35 pm
Sports News: 

In a stunning 7 day series, Bees scored 10 against every 1 of the SHB's takedown, while playing on a new field of H700.

The game got tighter as the playfield was shredded in this triumphant victory for the Girls.  The field was replaced at a cost of about .10 USD, but stadium owners had to buy H700 in bulk for that pricing. 

More playoff action ahead for all hives this year! 
Title: Re: GIRLS TEAR UP PLAYING FIELD IN 32 TO 3 ROUT OVER SHB TEAM!
Post by: Dabbler on May 22, 2019, 04:10:39 pm
 :cheesy:
Go Girls  !
Title: Re: GIRLS TEAR UP PLAYING FIELD IN 32 TO 3 ROUT OVER SHB TEAM!
Post by: FloridaGardener on May 22, 2019, 04:48:20 pm
Dabbler, Go Bills!
Our family is in Orchard Park, can hear the stadium roar when the Bills score. 
Title: Re: GIRLS TEAR UP PLAYING FIELD IN 32 TO 3 ROUT OVER SHB TEAM!
Post by: Dabbler on May 23, 2019, 08:18:58 am
FG
Thanks ! I understand Florida as a good sized Buffalo, expat community.

Unfortunately your family doesn't hear nearly enough roars.  :wink:
. . . . there's always next year, right?

I am pretty much kitty-corner across the county, in Akron.

Best Wishes to your Apis team this year. Hope they win the Honey Bowl.  :grin:
Title: Re: GIRLS TEAR UP PLAYING FIELD IN 32 TO 3 ROUT OVER SHB TEAM!
Post by: Bob Wilson on June 03, 2019, 03:42:20 pm
FloridaGardener. How large a piece of towel did you put in? Looks like a 2 inch piece. and only 1, or several? And where did you place them?
Title: Re: GIRLS TEAR UP PLAYING FIELD IN 32 TO 3 ROUT OVER SHB TEAM!
Post by: FloridaGardener on June 03, 2019, 10:31:15 pm
The towel comes folded in four equal sections.  So I cut it at the folds: one towel for four hives. 
Yes, it started out large and flat.  The ?Daisy? girls spun it up into the lump full of beetles in the photo above.  The ?Clover? hive picked at the edge at first, then learned to herd the SHB into the fuzz trap.  So Clover?s towel lasted longer.  Just too bad I had to buy the towels by the case...I?m probably supplied until 2079. 
Title: Re: GIRLS TEAR UP PLAYING FIELD IN 32 TO 3 ROUT OVER SHB TEAM!
Post by: Nock on June 05, 2019, 05:07:15 pm
I just bought a pack of those the other day when I was at Kelly?s. Haven?t put them in yet.
Title: Re: GIRLS TEAR UP PLAYING FIELD IN 32 TO 3 ROUT OVER SHB TEAM!
Post by: FloridaGardener on June 05, 2019, 08:11:54 pm
ROUND TWO

Daisy Hive: Over 100, stopped counting. Some folded over inside the lump of textile. SHB were still stuck & flailing when I pulled this out.
SBH: Looks like 7 bees got stuck too.

Yes...it was flat to begin with.
Yes...that's a piece of rubber band that is now melded into the lump of H700.

Daisy hive has the best know-how on this, and also the worst SHB problem.  This is an out-yard at a friend's home. There are chickens, and there's a big problem with ants, flies, and SHB. 

My other hives use the H700 too, but not so many captives.
I took a 10 second video of this lump, upon request I will post it if someone wants to see gross SHBs ...or wants to gloat.
Title: Re: GIRLS TEAR UP PLAYING FIELD IN 32 TO 3 ROUT OVER SHB TEAM!
Post by: Ben Framed on June 06, 2019, 02:01:30 am
ROUND TWO

Daisy Hive: Over 100, stopped counting. Some folded over inside the lump of textile. SHB were still stuck & flailing when I pulled this out.
SBH: Looks like 7 bees got stuck too.

Yes...it was flat to begin with.
Yes...that's a piece of rubber band that is now melded into the lump of H700.

Daisy hive has the best know-how on this, and also the worst SHB problem.  This is an out-yard at a friend's home. There are chickens, and there's a big problem with ants, flies, and SHB. 

My other hives use the H700 too, but not so many captives.
I took a 10 second video of this lump, upon request I will post it if someone wants to see gross SHBs ...or wants to gloat.

Now that is awesome! What is the difference in your sheets and the swifer sheets as far as the texture?
Title: Re: GIRLS TEAR UP PLAYING FIELD IN 32 TO 3 ROUT OVER SHB TEAM!
Post by: FloridaGardener on June 15, 2019, 04:09:50 pm
Never tried Swiffer.  This is the same product as Brawny Dine-a-Max.

Daisy leads the pack again with the best hive beetle trounce, but sadly, with some injury for Team Apis this week.

I keep moving Daisy Hive into more sunshine, 2 ft per week.  I can't figure out why she's got so many more SHB than the hive right next to her. 
Title: Re: GIRLS TEAR UP PLAYING FIELD IN 32 TO 3 ROUT OVER SHB TEAM!
Post by: Ben Framed on June 15, 2019, 04:15:58 pm
Never tried Swiffer.  This is the same product as Brawny Dine-a-Max.

Daisy leads the pack again with the best hive beetle trounce, but sadly, with some injury for Team Apis this week.

I keep moving Daisy Hive into more sunshine, 2 ft per week.  I can't figure out why she's got so many more SHB than the hive right next to her.

Thanks for you answer F G .  I do not know the answer as to why Daisy hive has the most problems  either, perhaps Jim,  Paus or some other of our experts will know the answer and chime in. Wishing you the best .
Phillip
Title: Re: GIRLS TEAR UP PLAYING FIELD IN 32 TO 3 ROUT OVER SHB TEAM!
Post by: FloridaGardener on June 15, 2019, 04:42:46 pm
Ha! I did wonder if they're saying:  'Go ahead. I dare you."
Title: Re: GIRLS TEAR UP PLAYING FIELD IN 32 TO 3 ROUT OVER SHB TEAM!
Post by: BeeMaster2 on June 15, 2019, 05:14:34 pm
Usually the hive that is stressed the most will have the most beetles assuming they get the same amount of sunlight. Inspections are the biggest contributor, failing queen, getting ready to/swarming. I have had a 4 box strong hive have over 300 SBHs in/above/below it and it had full sun with a concrete pad under it.
Jim Altmiller
Title: Re: GIRLS TEAR UP PLAYING FIELD IN 32 TO 3 ROUT OVER SHB TEAM!
Post by: Ben Framed on June 15, 2019, 05:26:49 pm
Usually the hive that is stressed the most will have the most beetles assuming they get the same amount of sunlight. Inspections are the biggest contributor, failing queen, getting ready to/swarming. I have had a 4 box strong hive have over 300 SBHs in/above/below it and it had full sun with a concrete pad under it.
Jim Altmiller

Thanks Jim, that is overwhelming!! Is it safe to guess that this happened before SBB and the oil trays ?
Title: Re: GIRLS TEAR UP PLAYING FIELD IN 32 TO 3 ROUT OVER SHB TEAM!
Post by: BeeMaster2 on June 15, 2019, 05:52:28 pm
No this was a couple of years after I stopped putting oil in the pans. This hive normally did not have more than a beetle or 2 because it was in full sun. I was really surprised when I opened it up. I had to empty my smoker trash can and dump them in it. There were way more than I could kill by hand as I am accustomed to doing.
Jim Altmiller
Title: Re: GIRLS TEAR UP PLAYING FIELD IN 32 TO 3 ROUT OVER SHB TEAM!
Post by: Ben Framed on June 16, 2019, 03:01:59 am
No this was a couple of years after I stopped putting oil in the pans. This hive normally did not have more than a beetle or 2 because it was in full sun. I was really surprised when I opened it up. I had to empty my smoker trash can and dump them in it. There were way more than I could kill by hand as I am accustomed to doing.
Jim Altmiller

Wow that was a lot of beetles in one hive. Jim, since you do not put oil in the pans any longer, do you use DE, or simply nothing at all?  I read a post recently by iddee where he said he has never lost a hive to SHB as all his hives are also placed in the sun.
Phillip
Title: Re: GIRLS TEAR UP PLAYING FIELD IN 32 TO 3 ROUT OVER SHB TEAM!
Post by: BeeMaster2 on June 16, 2019, 07:13:41 am
SHBs are not a problem here at my farm. They get lots of sunlight and the soil is rather dry. In Jacksonxille they were in full shade and moist soil. The beetles loved it.
I just have empty pans on the hives that I built. The rest are part of the Apiary that I bought and they just have Screen bottoms. I put corrugated plastic boards under them for oxalic fuming.
Jim Altmiller
Title: Re: GIRLS TEAR UP PLAYING FIELD IN 32 TO 3 ROUT OVER SHB TEAM!
Post by: Ben Framed on June 18, 2019, 12:03:12 am
SHBs are not a problem here at my farm. They get lots of sunlight and the soil is rather dry. In Jacksonxille they were in full shade and moist soil. The beetles loved it.
I just have empty pans on the hives that I built. The rest are part of the Apiary that I bought and they just have Screen bottoms. I put corrugated plastic boards under them for oxalic fuming.
Jim Altmiller

Here in North Mississippi where I live we have moist soil this year due to all the rain, but so far the SHB had not been much of a problem. My hives are very strong and I am sure that this also helps.
Title: Re: GIRLS TEAR UP PLAYING FIELD IN 32 TO 3 ROUT OVER SHB TEAM!
Post by: Bob Wilson on June 22, 2019, 12:22:32 am
I need to check these H7500 towel traps more often than once a week. I killed 10-15 beetles myself today, a lot of them tangled in the towels, not to mention the 20 dead beetles already there. However, the hive still seems strong and active. I saw no slimy comb, and the bees are still building comb and capping honey.
I also went through almost the entire hive with no gloves, as I always do now. I know my first sting is going to come sooner or later. I don't suppose I am a real beekeeper until then.
Title: Re: GIRLS TEAR UP PLAYING FIELD IN 32 TO 3 ROUT OVER SHB TEAM!
Post by: Bob Wilson on June 29, 2019, 12:18:53 am
Checked the towel traps again today. I was pleased to see that the SHB population was way down. From 40-50 to 10-12. Some dead, a few I dispatched. The towels were shredded again, because I didn't get there sooner like I planned. And the hive was less happy than usual. A few of them started harassing me a little at the end. I think there may be a dearth going on some. They didn't build as much as I expected, although the combs looked good with capped honey, eggs and brood.
Title: Re: GIRLS TEAR UP PLAYING FIELD IN 32 TO 3 ROUT OVER SHB TEAM!
Post by: Ben Framed on June 29, 2019, 12:52:53 am
Checked the towel traps again today. I was pleased to see that the SHB population was way down. From 40-50 to 10-12. Some dead, a few I dispatched. The towels were shredded again, because I didn't get there sooner like I planned. And the hive was less happy than usual. A few of them started harassing me a little at the end. I think there may be a dearth going on some. They didn't build as much as I expected, although the combs looked good with capped honey, eggs and brood.

Sounds like a job well done!  Keep up the good work.
Phillip
Title: Re: GIRLS TEAR UP PLAYING FIELD IN 32 TO 3 ROUT OVER SHB TEAM!
Post by: Sputnik on July 22, 2019, 03:21:24 pm
I put the towel traps in this morning. I plan to pull supers and extract on Friday. I. Hope it thins th heard of SHB.
Title: Re: GIRLS TEAR UP PLAYING FIELD IN 32 TO 3 ROUT OVER SHB TEAM!
Post by: Sputnik on July 26, 2019, 12:10:49 pm
I am impressed with the dine a max traps. 3 to 1 lead over the beetle blaster traps today. I will put more in when I return the sticky frames to the bees.
Title: Re: GIRLS TEAR UP PLAYING FIELD IN 32 TO 3 ROUT OVER SHB TEAM!
Post by: Bob Wilson on July 26, 2019, 01:35:16 pm
Sputnik. I found out with small squares, maybe 3X5 inches, I have to change them out every 4 to 5 days or the girls will shred them completely to bits. But they do work. In the long lang/ warren hive category, I have a thread about mason jar traps that I hope will work better.
Title: Re: GIRLS TEAR UP PLAYING FIELD IN 32 TO 3 ROUT OVER SHB TEAM!
Post by: Sputnik on July 26, 2019, 04:04:35 pm
Bobll I use screen bottoms and oil trays. I want to do everything I can to eliminate the pest. I have not used any kind of poison for 5 years in my hives.
 I grow thyme and shove sprigs in the entrance. Between that and the screens I don't  hive mite problems either. I do not have the option of full sun. We have woods on 3 side and water on the other.
 Sputnik was what Dad named me. I am also Bob.
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