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BEEKEEPING LEARNING CENTER => HONEYBEE REMOVAL => Topic started by: Tysbees on March 15, 2017, 10:32:16 pm
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What would you recommend to remove a one year old colony from a two story high, double brick wall without removing the wall?
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http://www.beemaster.com/forum/index.php?topic=20301.0
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http://www.beemaster.com/forum/index.php?topic=20301.0
That's what I was thinking.
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Thanks for the replies . I know you can't see it in the picture but I already have a screen Funnel coming off the house. The problem I having is, the wall is cracked in many places and somehow they're getting back in the house now. How long does this method usually take?
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Patch up other cracks with caulk and or mortar. So theres only one entrance and exit.
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Once you have it so no bees are getting back in, it will bee 3 to 4 weeks. By the second week, the SHB will start sliming the hive.
Jim
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That is a tough one.
What I would try first is to construct a smoldering fire in the fireplace and use a shop vac to suck the smoke from the chimney and pump it into that entrance. If it doesn't cause them to abscond it might show you where other entrances are. Unfortunately there might be hundreds. Is the building wood framed or masonry?
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It's all masonry, the fireplace is bo longer in service and they have electric one inside of the old . The foundation on this home is old and there is cracks everywhere. A beekeeper tried to get them out last year with no success , now I'm trying or they'll kill them.
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It's all masonry, the fireplace is bo longer in service and they have electric one inside of the old . The foundation on this home is old and there is cracks everywhere. A beekeeper tried to get them out last year with no success , now I'm trying or they'll kill them.
If this report is half accurate just go home.. unless you want to get into a major rebuild of somebody chimney or outer wall. Or get all kinds of disclaimer forms.
Is this even a paying job?
BEE HAPPY Jim 134 :smile:
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No it is not a paying job!! Just trying to help out I will not remove any bricks I was just trying to funnel them out with screen. I was trying to save these little guys. They want them out Dead or alive alive
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It's all masonry, the fireplace is bo longer in service and they have electric one inside of the old .
You can create the same smoke generator with a gas or charcoal grill. You need a lot of smoke and it needs to be pumped in under pressure. It wouldn't hurt to have help plugging up all the holes that appear. If you can't succeed in plugging up all the holes a trap out will not work. The real issue is if you can't plug up all the points of entry swarms will be a reoccurring event. This is what is hard to get people that don't know bees to understand.
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I went check on the process of my trap out today and 20 ft away, there was a swarm on a bush right above the ground. The brick wall was covered with hundreds of drones. Bees are definitely coming out and not getting back in the house. Pic of my little helper!!
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That is a tough one.
What I would try first is to construct a smoldering fire in the fireplace and use a shop vac to suck the smoke from the chimney and pump it into that entrance. If it doesn't cause them to abscond it might show you where other entrances are. Unfortunately there might be hundreds. Is the building wood framed or masonry?
Hello Brian, I am new at posting on your forum and I read your comment as follows and it caught my attention as I know of a cedar tree that has an establshed hive located inside the hollow. I was told that I could not force an absconb as this would not work on an established hive as the queen simply would not leave . My question, Is there hope yet? Can they be forced to abscomb with enough smoke?
Thanks Phillip Hall
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I was told that I could not force an absconb as this would not work on an established hive as the queen simply would not leave . My question, Is there hope yet? Can they be forced to abscomb with enough smoke?
Thanks Phillip Hall
The nurse bees won't leave brood either.
Smoke alone will not do it. Chances are a bee repellent won't do it either because you will not be able to get it concentrated enough where you need it. The heat of the fireplace might do it but it is very risky. Maybe a cup of hive beetles might slime them out of there but how do you get them to the nest? Chimneys and fireplaces are a real problem for bee removal.
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I was told that I could not force an absconb as this would not work on an established hive as the queen simply would not leave . My question, Is there hope yet? Can they be forced to abscomb with enough smoke?
Thanks Phillip Hall
The nurse bees won't leave brood either.
Smoke alone will not do it. Chances are a bee repellent won't do it either because you will not be able to get it concentrated enough where you need it. The heat of the fireplace might do it but it is very risky. Maybe a cup of hive beetles might slime them out of there but how do you get them to the nest? Chimneys and fireplaces are a real problem for bee removal.
Thanks Acebird
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I watched or listened o bee hooligans .#jp I think or yappy use bee be gone on a rag in a smoker at the entrance to get it deep in the hive. They might chime in.
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JT,
If memory serves me right, he did that to get the bees out of the back of the hive area after he removed the comb.
It is very difficult to get bees off of brood.
Jim