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Offline Kathyp

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dangerous corruption
« on: June 16, 2021, 01:57:17 pm »
Over the years I have defended many things the FBI has done.  I primarily defended them because of the agents I have known.  They were honorable people who believed in the mission.  Over those same number of years, I have become convinced that the FBI and other intel agencies are corrupt from the top down and many of those otherwise honorable agents know it.  If they have chosen to stay, they are part of the corruption.  This makes me sad, but more than that, it is a frightening realization.  They have power outside our control and outside the control of any legislative or executive pressures. 

Schumer said something a few years ago that I ignored at the time, but should have clocked.  If he knows this and says it out loud, is it not something the rest of us should understand?
This was a warning to Trump who, along with Flynn, understood what the intel agencies had become and they intended to do something about it.  We know how that worked out.

?Let me tell you, you take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you,? Schumer told MSNBC's Rachel Maddow.
?So even for a practical, supposedly hard-nosed businessman, he?s being really dumb to do this.
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Which brings me to the point of this post.  A long article, but worth reading and understanding. 

https://www.revolver.news/2021/06/federal-foreknowledge-jan-6-unindicted-co-conspirators-raise-disturbing-questions/



They are so divorced from their own interests that even when their own security and that of their children is finally compromised, they do not seek to avert the danger themselves but cross their arms and wait for the nation as a whole to come to their aid. Yet as utterly as they sacrifice their own free will, they are no fonder of obedience than anyone else. They submit, it is true, to the whims of a clerk, but no sooner is force removed than they are glad to defy the law as a defeated enemy. Thus one finds them ever wavering between servitude and license.
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Re: dangerous corruption
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2021, 03:51:56 pm »
Do you have any links that don't blast the screen with advertisements and put my hard drive in overdrive?  I don't trust sites like that.  I don't trust salesman in general.  There is not one that wouldn't tell you what you want to hear to make a sale.  No way to separate truth from lies.
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Re: dangerous corruption
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2021, 04:02:43 pm »
Ace,
I don't have that problem.  Check your pop-up blockers.
Good read, long, worth the time.  Tucker Carlson did a show based on the Revolver story, the YouTube version is now blocked.  Kind of confirms Revolver.

Kathyp,
google:  antifa.com and tell me where it sends you.

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Re: dangerous corruption
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2021, 07:57:08 pm »
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google:  antifa.com and tell me where it sends you.

Lol.  Should I laugh or cry?  Wonder how that happened?
They are so divorced from their own interests that even when their own security and that of their children is finally compromised, they do not seek to avert the danger themselves but cross their arms and wait for the nation as a whole to come to their aid. Yet as utterly as they sacrifice their own free will, they are no fonder of obedience than anyone else. They submit, it is true, to the whims of a clerk, but no sooner is force removed than they are glad to defy the law as a defeated enemy. Thus one finds them ever wavering between servitude and license.
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Re: dangerous corruption
« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2021, 07:58:20 pm »
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Do you have any links that don't blast the screen with advertisements and put my hard drive in overdrive?

I had no problem with it and since they are the ones who did the article, I posted the source.
They are so divorced from their own interests that even when their own security and that of their children is finally compromised, they do not seek to avert the danger themselves but cross their arms and wait for the nation as a whole to come to their aid. Yet as utterly as they sacrifice their own free will, they are no fonder of obedience than anyone else. They submit, it is true, to the whims of a clerk, but no sooner is force removed than they are glad to defy the law as a defeated enemy. Thus one finds them ever wavering between servitude and license.
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Re: dangerous corruption
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2021, 08:11:14 pm »
This kind of goes with the corruption bit, but this is societal corruption.  = disturbing.  More people need to be pushing back against this.

https://nypost.com/2021/06/14/north-korean-defector-slams-woke-us-schools/?fbclid=IwAR35r4zqnTxqxvIYAXt_4sObRTlBthteKrq1DdhKWKkL1GDWyZ1wgDZA0H0
They are so divorced from their own interests that even when their own security and that of their children is finally compromised, they do not seek to avert the danger themselves but cross their arms and wait for the nation as a whole to come to their aid. Yet as utterly as they sacrifice their own free will, they are no fonder of obedience than anyone else. They submit, it is true, to the whims of a clerk, but no sooner is force removed than they are glad to defy the law as a defeated enemy. Thus one finds them ever wavering between servitude and license.
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« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2021, 10:13:24 pm »
 I also had no problem with the article. Unfortunately it is only from these type of publications that we will see any semblance of the truth. Prior to the Trump era I attempted to correct an article by a reporter (writer) at the Wash Post. Even though I had legal court documented proof of her errors, I was tersely told that she stuck by her facts.   
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Re: dangerous corruption
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2021, 09:33:53 am »
Ace,
I don't have that problem.  Check your pop-up blockers.
Why should you need pop-up blockers?  Is it a porn site?
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Re: dangerous corruption
« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2021, 09:36:38 am »
This kind of goes with the corruption bit, but this is societal corruption.  = disturbing.  More people need to be pushing back against this.
https://nypost.com/2021/06/14/north-korean-defector-slams-woke-us-schools/?fbclid=IwAR35r4zqnTxqxvIYAXt_4sObRTlBthteKrq1DdhKWKkL1GDWyZ1wgDZA0H0


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Let me tell you, you take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you, Schumer told MSNBC's Rachel Maddow. So even for a practical, supposedly hard-nosed businessman, he?s being really dumb to do this.

This article digs deeper, exposing the corruption as well; Shining more light on the situation.
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For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

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Re: dangerous corruption
« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2021, 11:24:29 am »
Tucker?  come on Phil
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Re: dangerous corruption
« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2021, 11:30:16 am »
No Brian, The Liberty Report. I hope the word Liberty doesn?t upset you? It is the opposite of marxism.  :cheesy:
For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

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Re: dangerous corruption
« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2021, 12:20:53 pm »
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Tucker?

This is my point about you only listening to things that confirm what you already believe.  Tucker does some real reporting and has quite a few liberals on his show.  You may not like that he tends conservative and that's OK, but you might learn something from listening to him.  If you hear something that you question, then do your research. You may or may not end up agreeing with him or his guests but you will certainly learn something in the process. 
They are so divorced from their own interests that even when their own security and that of their children is finally compromised, they do not seek to avert the danger themselves but cross their arms and wait for the nation as a whole to come to their aid. Yet as utterly as they sacrifice their own free will, they are no fonder of obedience than anyone else. They submit, it is true, to the whims of a clerk, but no sooner is force removed than they are glad to defy the law as a defeated enemy. Thus one finds them ever wavering between servitude and license.
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Re: dangerous corruption
« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2021, 12:41:56 pm »
Tucker?  come on Phil

No Brian, The Liberty Report. I hope the word Liberty doesn?t upset you? It is the opposite of marxism.  :cheesy:

Really, this was from the Liberty Report. I was serious about the Liberty Report part, kidding Brian about the rest. It just happened to have Tuckers picture on the heading. A very in depth discussion between Daniel McAdams and Representative/Dr  Ron Paul which adds direct insight to the topic.
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Re: dangerous corruption
« Reply #13 on: June 17, 2021, 04:18:49 pm »
Dr  Ron Paul which adds direct insight to the topic.
No insight just opinionated rhetoric to sell his column.
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« Reply #14 on: June 17, 2021, 04:26:01 pm »
Tucker does some real reporting and has quite a few liberals on his show.
I noticed you didn't say journalism.  If he got dinged for making false statements he would be off the air waves.
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« Reply #15 on: June 17, 2021, 04:32:09 pm »
Tucker does some real reporting and has quite a few liberals on his show.
I noticed you didn't say journalism.  If he got dinged for making false statements he would be off the air waves.

> If he got dinged for making false statements he would be off the air waves.

True, unlike the false news broadcasters on the false news stations. There has to be someone held accountable with accurate reporting. I agree with you Brian, Tucker seems to be one of the dependable ones!  :cheesy:
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For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

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Re: dangerous corruption
« Reply #16 on: June 17, 2021, 07:53:26 pm »
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I noticed you didn't say journalism.  If he got dinged for making false statements he would be off the air waves.

Didn't think I had to.  while it is true that his is an opinion show, he does more journalism than most of the journalists that claim to be doing reporting.

I'd be happy to look at a list of his lies.  Pretty sure the list for your sources is to long to post  :wink:
They are so divorced from their own interests that even when their own security and that of their children is finally compromised, they do not seek to avert the danger themselves but cross their arms and wait for the nation as a whole to come to their aid. Yet as utterly as they sacrifice their own free will, they are no fonder of obedience than anyone else. They submit, it is true, to the whims of a clerk, but no sooner is force removed than they are glad to defy the law as a defeated enemy. Thus one finds them ever wavering between servitude and license.
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Re: dangerous corruption
« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2021, 09:07:07 am »
LOL do your research Kathy.
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« Reply #18 on: June 18, 2021, 12:25:05 pm »
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LOL do your research Kathy.

Apparently, I missed what you are talking about.  If you have something with which to educate me, I'd be happy to read it. 

Coming from you, that instruction is kind of rich.  I know, you wanted to give me my morning laugh   :cheesy:
They are so divorced from their own interests that even when their own security and that of their children is finally compromised, they do not seek to avert the danger themselves but cross their arms and wait for the nation as a whole to come to their aid. Yet as utterly as they sacrifice their own free will, they are no fonder of obedience than anyone else. They submit, it is true, to the whims of a clerk, but no sooner is force removed than they are glad to defy the law as a defeated enemy. Thus one finds them ever wavering between servitude and license.
Alexis de Tocqueville