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Title: Can We Count On The Police?
Post by: salvo on May 11, 2020, 08:26:52 pm
Hi Folks,

This piece says it better than I can compose. I always thought we could,... but I've been wondering....

https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2020/05/07/dumb-and-corrupt-cops-risk-losing-our-support-n2568260

Sal
Title: Re: Can We Count On The Police?
Post by: guitarstitch on May 11, 2020, 10:47:21 pm
I promise you, we cannot.

In my locality, we have a sheriff who has been caught in an affair scandal complicated with misuse of public resources to try to cover it up and illegally arrest his mistress when she threatened to expose him (after becoming pregnant...).  He then issued a statement on 2nd Amendment sanctuary cities basically stating that his hands were bound by Florida law and he would uphold anything that comes down from Tallahassee, regardless of whether it's constitutional.

No, the police are not always your friend.  I expect them to be upstanding and observant of the US Constitution.  I give them full respect as humans with a tough occupation...until that power attempts to compromise my rights.
Title: Re: Can We Count On The Police?
Post by: BeeMaster2 on May 12, 2020, 11:22:23 am
I live in Baker County, moved out of Duval County, party because I feel safer here. If you stop on the side of the road and a deputy drives by, he will stop and ask if you need help. From the top down, they feel their job is to protect us, not find some reason to arrest us. When they arrive on seen of a hot situation, they do their best to calm it, not make it worse and try to get all parties to come together. I have, as a first responder, seen this several times.
Jim Altmiller
Title: Re: Can We Count On The Police?
Post by: CoolBees on May 12, 2020, 01:35:47 pm
This is a great quote from the article:

... We?ve seen all these things happen or be threatened since the bat stew virus infected the Bill of Rights, perhaps fatally. And these atrocities have to stop ...


This article makes some really good points. Hopefully the msg gets thru to our LEO community.
Title: Re: Can We Count On The Police?
Post by: Acebird on May 13, 2020, 08:37:20 am
We can only count on the rule of law which should apply to everyone.  It is very unfortunate that some people believe the rule of law does not apply to them or that it only applies to who they think it should apply to.  When the man at the top believes he is untouchable the behavior trickles down.  It will get worse while the politicians continue to exhibit a blinds eye followed by their famous finger pointing.  All the while the slogan "Keep America Great" is doing the exact opposite.

We can only count on the police or any other institution if it is held accountable.
Title: Re: Can We Count On The Police?
Post by: salvo on May 13, 2020, 09:08:37 pm
Hi Folks,

Anywayyyy:

We all know a "singular" bad cop. Remember years ago, when you heard that "...that guy became a cop???" That "bad kid" from high school?

He's not who I'm talking about. I'm talking about the cop that says,... "Ok! I know those orders are wrong, but those are the orders. I've got to follow them".

I told you about my Latvian friend's father, the Nazi guard. The one Simon Wiesenthal was after. He was a young man following orders.

In 1969 my friend explained that being a Nazi at the time, was like being a democrat today. How prophetical.

S.W knew where he was. They only let him get away,.... out of kindness I suppose. That quiet, low wage, hard working family man that I knew was a Nazi guard, was supposedly responsible for atrocities. He was just following orders.

Remember Kent State? Remember Waco? Ruby Ridge? General Flynn? Roger Stone? Elian Gonzales? Only following orders.

Hillary Clinton? Ultra vires? CYA!

Can we count on the police?

It depends on who WE are.

Sal
Title: Re: Can We Count On The Police?
Post by: salvo on June 04, 2020, 07:17:24 pm
Hi Folks,

Good read:

http://www.citypages.com/news/minneapolis-city-council-members-consider-disbanding-the-police/570993291?fbclid=IwAR3s29tQ66sxIO9zF-h77LfAhb3CG_k2b4VzDEf07xPFF04xyw1LQ6Rf_GU

Sal
Title: Re: Can We Count On The Police?
Post by: iddee on June 04, 2020, 10:33:42 pm
Now would be the perfect time for the entire police force to turn in their notice. You would really see some action then.
Title: Re: Can We Count On The Police?
Post by: salvo on June 05, 2020, 07:12:08 am
Hi Folks,

Do you folks see these things elsewhere? Am I being redundant here or are these links useful?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/tucker-liberal-activists-now-want-to-defund-the-police/vi-BB153tX6

Sal
Title: Re: Can We Count On The Police?
Post by: Ben Framed on June 06, 2020, 02:06:12 am
Attorney General William P. Barr, FBI Director Christopher Wray, U.S. Marshals Director Donald W. Washington, BOP Director Michael Carvajal, ATF Acting Director Regina Lombardo, and DEA Acting Administrator Timothy Shea held a virtual press conference at the Department of Justice.


CC For the Hearing Impaired
https://youtu.be/u-YZlLT6uLc
Title: Re: Can We Count On The Police?
Post by: CoolBees on June 06, 2020, 08:28:33 pm
Hi Folks,

Do you folks see these things elsewhere? Am I being redundant here or are these links useful?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/tucker-liberal-activists-now-want-to-defund-the-police/vi-BB153tX6

Sal

It's about time to "de-fund some politicians"

In other news: "we haven't played cowboys-and-looters yet, but its'a comin', its'a comin"' ... they'd be in much better hands with the Police ... says I.
Title: Re: Can We Count On The Police?
Post by: iddee on June 06, 2020, 08:48:24 pm
Buffalo police are starting the right way, if they will just keep it up and maybe it will spread.


https://100percentfedup.com/buffalo-cops-charged-with-assaulting-elderly-activist-greeted-by-hundreds-of-colleagues-showing-solidarity/
Title: Re: Can We Count On The Police?
Post by: salvo on June 06, 2020, 11:05:37 pm
Hi Folks,

Who's old enough to remember?

Black Day in July
Gordon Lightfoot

Black day in July
Motor city madness has touched the countryside
And through the smoke and cinders
You can hear it far and wide
The doors are quickly bolted
And the children locked inside

Black day in July
Black day in July
And the soul of Motor City is bared across the land
As the book of law and order is taken in the hands
Of the sons of the fathers who were carried to this land

Black day in July
Black day in July
In the streets of Motor City is a deadly silent sound
And the body of a dead youth lies stretched upon the ground
Upon the filthy pavement
No reason can be found

Black day in July
Black day in July
Motor City madness has touched the countryside
And the people rise in anger
And the streets begin to fill
And there's gunfire from the rooftops
And the blood begins to spill

Black day in July

In the mansion of the governor
There's nothing that is known for sure
The telephone is ringing
And the pendulum is swinging
And they wonder how it happened
And they really know the reason
And it wasn't just the temperature
And it wasn't just the season

Black day in July
Black day in July
Motor City's burning and the flames are running wild
They reflect upon the waters of the river and the lake
And everyone is listening
And everyone's awake

Black day in July
Black day in July
The printing press is turning
And the news is quickly flashed
And you read your morning paper
And you sip your cup of tea
And you wonder just in passing
Is it him or is it me

Black day in July

In the office of the President
The deed is done the troops are sent
There's really not much choice you see
It looks to us like anarchy
And then the tanks go rolling in
To patch things up as best they can
There is no time to hesitate
The speech is made the dues can wait

Black day in July
Black day in July
The streets of Motor City now are quiet and serene
But the shapes of gutted buildings
Strike terror to the heart
And you say how did it happen
And you say how did it start
Why can't we all be brothers
Why can't we live in peace
But the hands of the have-nots
Keep falling out of reach

Black day in July
Black day in July
Motor city madness has touched the countryside
And through the smoke and cinders
You can hear it far and wide
The doors are quickly bolted
And the children locked inside

https://www.history.com/topics/1960s/1967-detroit-riots

Sal
Title: Re: Can We Count On The Police?
Post by: BeeMaster2 on June 07, 2020, 07:26:35 am
I was 12 years old, I listened to the radio a lot but I do not remember this song. I definitely knew who Gordon Lightfoot was.
Jim Altmiller
Title: Re: Can We Count On The Police?
Post by: salvo on June 08, 2020, 07:12:14 pm
Hi Folks,

Apparently it's time we DIS-ARM,... and maybe... DE-LEG the police!!!???

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/06/08/george-floyds-family-petitions-united-nations-help-disarm-police-united-states/

Sal
Title: Re: Can We Count On The Police?
Post by: Kathyp on June 16, 2020, 03:35:19 pm
We have over 350 million people in the US and 700,000 police of one kind or another.  If you look at it from the numbers perspective, the number of bad cops doing bad things is small.  Additionally, we have police unions that make it next to impossible to get rid of bad cops (or teachers, or anyone else rep'ed by a strong union". 

What happens when we paint any group with a broad brush and demonize them?  The good people who can do other things, leave.  What are we left with?  Those who are dumb and unmotivated.

Any large group is going to have its bad eggs.  Police, military, or "mostly peaceful" protesters.  There are always going to be people who join for reasons other than to serve.  There are those who are going to go bad after joining.  You are never going to get rid of all of them, but we can do a better job of IDing them early and removing them. 

things will make the good go bad or quit more quickly than anything I can think of and that is lack of support and leadership at the top. 

They lost two good police chiefs in Portland, one a black woman, because of the idiot mayor.  The last police chief, a white woman, just quit so that a black man could be in charge.  He may be great, but right now he has the deer in the headlights look.  It was unexpected, but PC, so...
Title: Re: Can We Count On The Police?
Post by: salvo on July 14, 2020, 08:39:03 am
Hi Folks,

The police said: It's not me! I don't want to do this! It's just my job! Now, where's your guns!

https://www.foxnews.com/media/mark-mccloskey-st-louis-rifle-rumor-indicted

Sal
Title: Re: Can We Count On The Police?
Post by: salvo on September 27, 2020, 08:55:11 pm
Hi Folks,

You can count on this cop, Aubrey Gregory, Louisville, KY! Two stories.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/24/watch-louisville-cop-shot-wednesday-shows-up-for-roll-call-thursday/

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=aubrey+gregory+10+k+race+cnn&&view=detail&mid=04A046C18EBA7E8D476904A046C18EBA7E8D4769&&FORM=VRDGAR&ru=%2Fvideos%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Daubrey%2Bgregory%2B10%2Bk%2Brace%2Bcnn%26FORM%3DHDRSC3

Sal
Title: Re: Can We Count On The Police?
Post by: salvo on November 17, 2020, 06:07:18 am
Hi Folks,

Will it get worse before it gets better?

We,... WE... get up and go to work, make a living, feed our families. What are THEY doing? When will things snap?

https://www.theorganicprepper.com/selco-truth-violence-shtf/

Sal
Title: Re: Can We Count On The Police?
Post by: Michael Bush on November 25, 2020, 07:41:50 pm
>Can We Count On The Police?

Not if we defund them...

I think we should:

DEFUND GUN CONTROL
DEFUND DEMOCRATS
DEFUND CONGRESS
DEFUND SOCIALISM
Title: Re: Can We Count On The Police?
Post by: salvo on August 03, 2021, 09:22:12 am
Hi Folks,

Something seems odd to me about three police officers connected to that January Sixth Story (Storming of the Bastille) committing suicide.

Quote: *Hashida's death is the third known suicide of a police officer who responded to the Capitol*

https://www.foxnews.com/us/washington-dc-officer-capitol-riot-suicide

Someone should investigate their connections. What do they have in common? Did they KNOW something? Is it really suicide? There were so few cops there. This seems like a high percentage. They were cops. Could they not handle the drama? No blood and guts that I'm aware of. I can't even imagine being so traumatized at a crowd of dopes getting out of control that I'd end it all. What could they not live with?

What did they know,... and when did they know it?

Sal
Title: Re: Can We Count On The Police?
Post by: salvo on August 03, 2021, 05:01:36 pm
WHOOPS!

Officer #4!!!!

FOURTH Capitol riot cop, 26, commits suicide: DC police reveal officer was found dead at his home last month in statement just hours after disclosing third cop had taken his own life.

https://people.com/politics/a-fourth-capitol-police-officer-has-died-by-suicide/

NO WAY!!! NOT A COINCIDENCE!

Sal
Title: Re: Can We Count On The Police?
Post by: salvo on March 20, 2022, 09:54:34 pm
Hi Folks,

Well, looks like this cop can count on us!

https://www.foxnews.com/us/florida-highway-patrol-dashcam

Sal
Title: Re: Can We Count On The Police?
Post by: BeeMaster2 on March 23, 2022, 10:52:55 am
Don?t mess with our police here in Florida. Here in Baker County, our officers are really here to protect us. It starts with our sheriff?s attitude towards our community and they follow his lead. 🤗
Jim Altmiller
Title: Re: Can We Count On The Police?
Post by: salvo on March 23, 2022, 07:02:28 pm
Hi Folks,

Another one bites the dust!

https://www.foxnews.com/us/salt-lake-city-police-officer-assaulted-airport-bystander-subdue-suspect-video

Sal
Title: Re: Can We Count On The Police?
Post by: salvo on June 30, 2022, 07:53:42 am
Hi Folks,

WOW! They really keep this CHARADE going on!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/massachusetts-state-police-fired-over-vaccine-mandate-to-lose-guns-too/ar-AAZ1Lge?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=b64dd2a8469d4e9cad90263b079cc445



Sal
Title: Re: Can We Count On The Police?
Post by: salvo on September 23, 2022, 12:26:30 am
Title: Re: Can We Count On The Police?
Post by: Michael Bush on September 23, 2022, 11:02:21 am
Unfortunately that will only leave the bad ones...
Title: Re: Can We Count On The Police?
Post by: Acebird on September 24, 2022, 09:22:04 am
Unfortunately that will only leave the bad ones...
Same problem the republicans created for teachers.  So you better brace yourself if you live another 20 years.
Title: Re: Can We Count On The Police?
Post by: Michael Bush on September 26, 2022, 07:42:13 am
>Same problem the republicans created for teachers.

The teacher's unions have destroyed that.  If you mean "no child left behind" that is a disaster as are all the other federally mandated school issues.  If they would abolish the Dept. of Education and drop all federal funding of education we would be much better off.
Title: Re: Can We Count On The Police?
Post by: salvo on October 09, 2022, 08:22:42 pm
Hi Folks,

This *Denver Gazette* seems to be as reputable as any out there.

FYI.
https://denvergazette.com/news/education/video-shown-to-denver-south-students-do-not-call-the-police-in-case-of-racist/article_403d4c10-2337-11ed-aa14-cf230fb15ee7.html?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=dg-craft&utm_term=awareness&utm_content=south-denver-students

Sal
Title: Re: Can We Count On The Police?
Post by: G3farms on October 10, 2022, 10:28:20 am
Sounds like they are telling the students to take care of business themselves.

In high school that is what happened after school, every now and then some smart mouth got the crap beat out of them, they either came around or there was another lesson given. Most were quick learners.
Title: Re: Can We Count On The Police?
Post by: salvo on October 13, 2022, 04:43:09 am
Title: Re: Can We Count On The Police?
Post by: salvo on November 23, 2022, 07:56:53 pm
Hi Folks,

You sure can't count on the MOSCOW, IDAHO POLICE!

I'm also not too sure about t the Colorado Springs police department.

KEYSTONE COPS comes to mind.

Sal.

Title: Re: Can We Count On The Police?
Post by: salvo on November 27, 2022, 09:09:12 am
Hi Folks,

Well,... The FBI are involved in this Idaho murder.

What the heck is this Mary O'Toole selling? This is a PRO? She can't even give a news interview effectively.

IDK here.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/idaho-murders-major-rumors-police-have-swatted-down

Wait! Wait!
*Murders not tied to unsolved area stabbings*
*No connection with dog skinned nearby*

Who's the sick ------ who lives in your neighborhood that skins a pet dog?

https://www.foxnews.com/us/handgun-owners-carrying-daily-us-doubled-4-years-self-protection-cited-main-reason-study

Sal
Title: Re: Can We Count On The Police?
Post by: salvo on December 15, 2022, 10:15:10 pm
Hi Folks,

Copy & paste:

?I am heartbroken by this terrible loss of two brave law enforcement officers. I am praying for their family, friends, their fellow officers and the entire Bay St. Louis community,? said Governor Tate Reeves. ?Every single day across Mississippi, our law enforcement members place their lives on the line in constant and repeated acts of selfless sacrifice for their community. They are a key reason that the rest of us are safely and freely able to live our lives. They are the thin blue line.?

Please click the link:
https://www.vicksburgpost.com/2022/12/14/vicksburg-native-spoke-with-officers-for-30-minutes-before-reportedly-shooting-them-turning-gun-on-herself/

Sal
Title: Re: Can We Count On The Police?
Post by: salvo on January 29, 2023, 12:30:08 pm
Hi Folks,

https://www.foxnews.com/video/6319444499112

https://www.foxnews.com/video/6319390441112

This guy was screaming for his MOM!

Can you just imagine being his Mom right now?

Sal
Title: Re: Can We Count On The Police?
Post by: Ben Framed on January 29, 2023, 01:05:14 pm
It is my understanding these Memphis police officers, 'each one them', are now former police officers. They have been fired and charged with murder. They will now have their day in court.....