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BEEKEEPING LEARNING CENTER => DISEASE & PEST CONTROL => Topic started by: JRS on January 28, 2007, 08:19:24 pm

Title: fire ants
Post by: JRS on January 28, 2007, 08:19:24 pm
I was wondering how some of the other southern based beekeepers protect hives from fire ants.
Title: Re: fire ants
Post by: imabkpr on January 28, 2007, 09:27:04 pm
I was wondering how some of the other southern based beekeepers protect hives from fire ants.

newcomber; For fire ant mounds i use ortho, orthene fire ant killer.Its a powder so the bees dont seem to want to collect it thinking its pollen. You only have to use about 3/4 tbl per mound, with no watering it in. On small mounds I use less. you can buy it at ace hardware. It works very well for me. On other ants I use a product called safer Roach & Ant killing powder. Also works very well.   Charlie
Title: Re: fire ants
Post by: Understudy on January 28, 2007, 10:46:59 pm
Cinnamon spread around the base of the hive.

Sincerely,
Brendhan
Title: Re: fire ants
Post by: JRS on January 30, 2007, 08:04:39 pm
will the ortho work around the hive? cinnamon, huh, thats interesting  thanks
Title: Re: fire ants
Post by: pdmattox on January 30, 2007, 08:07:47 pm
I use guardstar from dadant and sons.
Title: Re: fire ants
Post by: JRS on January 30, 2007, 08:53:56 pm
ok thanks fire ants are horrible here in louisiana last year took a colony out of a wall and hived them we got a little hunny spill outside and the ants ddestroyed the hive and the bees picked up and left
Title: Re: fire ants
Post by: nepenthes on January 30, 2007, 09:39:03 pm
ants can wreak havoc, but its really not JUST invasive fire ants, Theirs also other ants too, and their aren't just fire ants in Southern states, they are just cause they are more noticeable, the size of the mature mounds you usualy cant miss, but keep in mind their are hundred species of ants that sting in the USA, but not all ants sting. Fire ants just have a more powerful sting. Just want to get that out of the way now, all adult ants (the ones you see out and about) need something sugary in their diet. Honey just is a perfect source. Some people stick their hive stands in coffee cans full of oil, some sprinkle cinnamon around the  base of the hive like mentioned. Insecticides work just as well too.

theirs lots of remedies to ants if they are bothering you and you don't have to kill them. Unless they are in you're house, but don't go around saying you have Carpenter ants unless you are 100 percent on the species!
Title: Re: fire ants
Post by: imabkpr on January 30, 2007, 10:51:59 pm
will the ortho work around the hive? cinnamon, huh, thats interesting  thanks

     newcomber;  Yes ortho will work around the hive for fire ants.  Charlie
Title: Re: fire ants
Post by: qa33010 on January 31, 2007, 01:10:10 am
The best luck I've had in south Georgia and here, since they arrived, is Amdro.  The bait works great when used per directions.  I have had 100% dead mounds.  Though I've not used that particular Ortho product, everything else only caused the fire ants to move.  I used cinnamon, not Saigon Cinnamon, and it's been a great repellant.  I've also wiped a film of FGMO with my finger around the hive and it lasts longer except during heavy rains.
Title: Re: fire ants
Post by: Kirk-o on February 07, 2007, 11:03:38 pm
I have had bees abscond here in L A from ants.So I'm careful not to spill I usre grape jelly or peanut butter mixed with Boraic acid cover it up with a board or card board the ants take it home feed the queen ant CURTAINS
kirk-o