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BEEKEEPING LEARNING CENTER => DISEASE & PEST CONTROL => Topic started by: danno on November 09, 2012, 04:23:20 pm

Title: amitraz
Post by: danno on November 09, 2012, 04:23:20 pm
Has anyone heard the rumor that amitraz is coming back on the market in a strip form labeled for bee's
Title: Re: amitraz
Post by: AllenF on November 09, 2012, 05:23:17 pm
I haven't see any.   Ok for bees, not ok for me.   I hope it is just a rumor. 
Title: Re: amitraz
Post by: rdy-b on November 11, 2012, 12:09:40 am
It was granted a section 18 in south dakota-there are other states that are applying for section 3
which will be long lasting the process takes longer than section 18 which will have to be renewed in a years time
Amitraz is by far more forgiving to the bees and wax than fluvalvanate (apistan )--Amitraz is accredited for saving the commercial bee industry through its off label use- there is much concern over resistance being developed once it is used throughout the country - the delivery system will be strips at 3% with a time frame of about 42 days-most off label treatments are a quick flash type treatment of about 3 days and resistance is not a prolonged issue -
amitraz is used in europe and at present in canada-RDY-B
Title: Re: amitraz
Post by: AllenF on November 11, 2012, 09:55:51 am
http://www.dadant.com/news/apivar-amitraz-approved-for-varroa-control-in-south-dakota (http://www.dadant.com/news/apivar-amitraz-approved-for-varroa-control-in-south-dakota)

Title: Re: amitraz
Post by: rdy-b on November 11, 2012, 12:35:39 pm
 What this also means is that the FDA will have to change the ruling which currently states
 a zero tolerance for the product(amitraz) in honey--at the current time there is no way to detect it after
a short period of time-amitraz breaks down so quickly there is only two byproducts of the chemical
that can be detected-neither of which is toxic to bees or wax--but there always remains the possibility of a synergist affect with any  treatment or anything the bees get into themselves for that mater---RDY-B
Title: Re: amitraz
Post by: VolunteerK9 on November 11, 2012, 10:02:25 pm
We used to fly tag calves with amitraz treated tags. Didnt know I could tag a hive. Usually if one state passes it, others follow.
Title: Re: amitraz
Post by: danno on November 13, 2012, 08:17:55 am
Taktic has been use off label on bee's for years. 
Title: Re: amitraz
Post by: BeeMaster2 on November 13, 2012, 01:00:06 pm
This was brought up at the Florida Beekeeper Conference in Tampa. They are expecting Fl to approve it for temporary use.
Jim
Title: Re: amitraz
Post by: VolunteerK9 on November 14, 2012, 01:30:23 pm
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Title: Re: amitraz
Post by: rdy-b on November 14, 2012, 11:18:55 pm
 :lol: :lol: 8-)-- :angel: RDY-B
Title: Re: amitraz
Post by: VolunteerK9 on November 15, 2012, 12:03:26 pm
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Title: Re: amitraz
Post by: johng on December 20, 2012, 05:14:34 pm
Florida was granted approval last week. Mann lake has the strips on sale now.
Title: Re: amitraz
Post by: tefer2 on December 20, 2012, 06:12:18 pm
Danno, take a look at your bee blast ad today.
Title: Re: amitraz
Post by: danno on December 21, 2012, 09:13:00 am
about time   Are you going to use it?
Title: Re: amitraz
Post by: tefer2 on December 21, 2012, 10:11:41 am
Not finding very much info on the net about it.
Title: Re: amitraz
Post by: REDBEE on December 21, 2012, 11:05:38 am
Heard tactic has stop being produced ,better get it before its off the shelves
Title: Re: amitraz
Post by: saperica on December 21, 2012, 12:42:40 pm
you can always order amitraz from croatia, here is legal and have a VMP stamp.
in my country amitraz http://www.dalmed.hr/en/varolik.html (http://www.dalmed.hr/en/varolik.html) from domestic producer, same that i use for test a summer treatment.
amitraz strips is here from same producer: http://www.dalmed.hr/en/varodal.html (http://www.dalmed.hr/en/varodal.html) .
also for smoke tretman i use a http://www.varrojet.co.rs/en/varrojet.html (http://www.varrojet.co.rs/en/varrojet.html) for fast treatment.
inportant is right dosage on paper strip for smoking and right time of application and number of repetition.

best regards from zagreb
Title: Re: amitraz
Post by: danno on December 21, 2012, 01:08:04 pm
Heard tactic has stop being produced ,better get it before its off the shelves

Taktic has been back ordered for this past year.   Production issues.  Merck said it will be available again in 2013
Title: Re: amitraz
Post by: Bee Busters on September 20, 2013, 01:03:23 pm
How would Taktic, or Maverick, or Mitivan be applied?  I think all three are forms of amitraz?
Title: Re: amitraz
Post by: Michael Bush on September 20, 2013, 02:04:10 pm
And it's effect on mammals:
http://www.petpoisonhelpline.com/poison/amitraz/ (http://www.petpoisonhelpline.com/poison/amitraz/)

and more specifically humans:
http://adc.bmj.com/content/88/2/130.full (http://adc.bmj.com/content/88/2/130.full)
http://www.epa.gov/oppsrrd1/REDs/factsheets/0234fact.pdf (http://www.epa.gov/oppsrrd1/REDs/factsheets/0234fact.pdf)

From the above epa page:
"Amitraz or BAAM is an insecticide and acaricide..."
(emphasis mine)