I have listened to hundreds, if not thousands of hours of eyewitness testimony of voter fraud in many states. There have been hearings in front of the various state legislatures. Many of the witnesses had worked for the election committee for decades. Some had volunteered as witnesses for decades. These were not people who didn't know how an election works. Some of them said that the media had reported that they had recanted their testimony. They had not. Many have now been fired, which is an odd way to treat a whistleblower if you have nothing to hide.