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Title: Cut out
Post by: trapperbob on September 16, 2013, 11:06:25 am

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Here is a cut out I did two weeks ago that finally convinced me to buy robos beevac some of the comb was 4 inches thick and had so many bees it was crazy
Title: Re: Cut out
Post by: Robo on September 16, 2013, 11:49:51 am
Wow, looks like they had been there for quite some time.  Some nice feral genetics.   Best of luck.

Rob....
Title: Re: Cut out
Post by: tefer2 on September 16, 2013, 12:07:10 pm
Some dark old brood comb in there. The Robo vac will cut your time spent in half.
Great for vacuuming swarms up fast too.
Title: Re: Cut out
Post by: trapperbob on September 16, 2013, 12:30:23 pm
The owner said he knew for sure they had been there 5 years the top half was nearly solid except for a few tunnels in it.
Title: Re: Cut out
Post by: chux on September 16, 2013, 12:33:28 pm
Great pics. Awesome opportunity for you. I do have a question for you experienced "cut-outers." I notice in the close up pics that there is some old broken and abandoned comb in the lower left. On the other side of the stud from the colony. I saw that in a cutout this year too. Is that evidence of a previous colony that failed? In my case, there were a few more pieces of really old comb, and residue on the inside wall showing where a colony used to be. Then on the other side of the stud, was a large colony like the one shown. I'm thinking the parent colony failed at some point in the past, but a swarm took up in the next section of wall, perhaps from the original.

What do you guys think? Is that what we see in this pic????

Oh, now I see that above the old comb, you have some newer comb. Were they using that side too? Did you cut up that side and find more?
Title: Re: Cut out
Post by: trapperbob on September 16, 2013, 12:57:06 pm
In this case I think you are right but in this case I ended up cutting the rest of that put and they had filled most of what is covered in the pics . It did seem there had been a previous colony there before though
Title: Re: Cut out
Post by: GSF on September 17, 2013, 12:20:56 pm
I've never done a cut out before. If I ran across something like that it'd probably scare me off   :shock:

Awesome!
Title: Re: Cut out
Post by: Sour Kraut on September 17, 2013, 06:53:24 pm
"On the other side of the stud from the colony. I saw that in a cutout this year too. Is that evidence of a previous colony that failed? In my case, there were a few more pieces of really old comb, and residue on the inside wall showing where a colony used to be. Then on the other side of the stud, was a large colony like the one shown. I'm thinking the parent colony failed at some point in the past, but a swarm took up in the next section of wall, perhaps from the original.

What do you guys think? Is that what we see in this pic?Huh"

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Most likely, they started to expand into that area, but gave it up because of a too-narrow opening, or lack of ventilation.  Or started during a heavy flow which came to an end and it was abandoned.

Just my $ 0.02, for what its worth..........
Title: Re: Cut out
Post by: Robo on September 17, 2013, 09:38:40 pm
"On the other side of the stud from the colony. I saw that in a cutout this year too. Is that evidence of a previous colony that failed? In my case, there were a few more pieces of really old comb, and residue on the inside wall showing where a colony used to be. Then on the other side of the stud, was a large colony like the one shown. I'm thinking the parent colony failed at some point in the past, but a swarm took up in the next section of wall, perhaps from the original.

What do you guys think? Is that what we see in this pic?Huh"

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Most likely, they started to expand into that area, but gave it up because of a too-narrow opening, or lack of ventilation.  Or started during a heavy flow which came to an end and it was abandoned.

Just my $ 0.02, for what its worth..........



Comb gets old and unusable even in feral hives.   We don't see it a lot because it seems ferals don't survive for long periods of time in one spot.  Here the oldest one I have ever found and you can see how the colony moved and abandoned comb over time.

http://forum.beemaster.com/index.php/topic,9430.0.html (http://forum.beemaster.com/index.php/topic,9430.0.html)
Title: Re: Cut out
Post by: trapperbob on September 21, 2013, 09:40:37 am
It appeared to be overflow and most of the comb was new on that side.there was only a couple old ones. It looked like they only used that side as overflow.