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Title: stolen hives
Post by: schawee on August 12, 2011, 12:14:19 am
yesterday morning i went to the farm to check on some of my hives to put some supers on and to feed my fish.i go there just about everyday and have ,well had 65 hives there.on the way home i noticed what looked like one of my top on side the road so i turned around and it was. i have 12 hives and 4 nucs 1/2 mile from there .so i went to check  and 4 hives and all my nucs  were gone.i just can't believe this.well it happens but i have a hunch who it is and will find out soon. didn't go today because im not feeling good and have a fever but soon as i get better i will find out who it is and when i do  :evil:     schawee
Title: Re: stolen hives
Post by: Kathyp on August 12, 2011, 12:32:23 am
maybe don't say anything but camp out prepared for their return.  it happens, but it need only happen once.....
Title: Re: stolen hives
Post by: bee-nuts on August 12, 2011, 04:14:25 am
I hope they dont visit this site.

This is what jails were made for.  To bad thieves get off with a slap on the wrist.  Dirty little sons of ######'s 

I hope you get your stuff back and find out who did it soon. 
good Luck.
Title: Re: stolen hives
Post by: KD4MOJ on August 12, 2011, 09:26:39 am
Good Luck schawee... hate to read this kind of stuff.

...DOUG
KD4MOJ
Title: Re: stolen hives
Post by: rbinhood on August 12, 2011, 09:56:21 am
I had this same problem a couple of years ago, I found a way to have constant observation of my hives and I didn't have to sit around and wait.  I purchased a digital game camera and placed it near my remaining hives and lo and behold I got some of the best pictures you ever saw of the thief at work and it was enough to convict the nut job of agriculture theft which resulted in the return of my hives and him serving 18 months.  Now I have one or two at each out yard and trust me word get around.
Title: Re: stolen hives
Post by: iddee on August 12, 2011, 09:57:51 am
Hope you catch some nice gators. I know who, er, what you're gonna be using for bait if you catch them.
Title: Re: stolen hives
Post by: JP on August 12, 2011, 10:28:09 am
 I sure hope y'all catch 'em Schawee that way we'll have fresh bait for next month!  :evil:


...JP
Title: Re: stolen hives
Post by: BlueBee on August 12, 2011, 12:20:30 pm
Just wondering out load here….. 

Who steals bee hives?  Another beek? 

The general public seems paranoid enough of bees as it is, it would seem unlikely to me they would be up for stealing hives.  I would think to successfully steal them, you would have to know what you’re doing, own a bee suit, know how to seal up a hive, how to strap up hives, and how to move such heavy things.  Finally what economic value would a hive(s) have to the general public? 
Title: Re: stolen hives
Post by: Oblio13 on August 12, 2011, 12:33:34 pm
Beeks strike me as usually being exceptionally friendly, helpful, nice people. So it pains me to hear of this sort of thing.

Not to mention that hives are not particularly easy things to steal.
Title: Re: stolen hives
Post by: kingfisherfd2 on August 12, 2011, 12:45:14 pm
Amos Moses might be a more accurate handle for Schawee

Sorry to hear about it.
Title: Re: stolen hives
Post by: yockey5 on August 12, 2011, 12:49:03 pm
I certainly hope you nab this guy! I hate a thief.

Oh BTW, thieves are liberals because they want something without the labor of earning it. Feed all liberals to the gators.
Title: Re: stolen hives
Post by: BeeMaster2 on August 12, 2011, 12:54:30 pm
We had a Sherrif's deputy stealing 1 or 2 hives from hives all over his area, down in Palatka, FL. He was caught because he had hives that were stamped with State hive markings that he didn't file off. He was convicted of a felony for removing the markings. The theft was a mister meaner, (how ever they are spelled) removing the stamps was a felony.
Jim
Title: Re: stolen hives
Post by: L Daxon on August 12, 2011, 02:38:01 pm
I am with BlueBee.  Who would want to steal 4 hives and 4 nucs but another beekeep?  Vandals just like to push'em over, as has happend to me before.  To actually steal the hives, someone would have to know what they were doing and come prepared.

You could check the hospital emergency room to see if anyone showed up with an unusually large number of stings as would probably have happend if some took them who didn't know what they were doing?

Sorry you aren't feeling well and sorry for your loss.

Linda D
Title: Re: stolen hives
Post by: skflyfish on August 12, 2011, 02:52:17 pm
Sorry to hear this Schawee.

With a cover blown off and only 4 hives and 4 nucs taken, I would think the thief used a smaller pickup. A larger pickup could have held more.

Good luck catching that rat ba$t..d.

Jay
Title: Re: stolen hives
Post by: stella on August 12, 2011, 04:48:40 pm
I just cant believe that this stuff happens. I wouldnt of ever thought someone would steal hives. What a bummer. Sorry.
Title: Re: stolen hives
Post by: njoylife10 on August 12, 2011, 06:28:56 pm
Hope you catch'm. 

njoylife10
Title: Re: stolen hives
Post by: mikecva on August 12, 2011, 06:29:09 pm
Sorry to hear this Schawee.

If you catch the thief, you might consider sitting him/her down in front of your hives (for observation purposes) and give the thief a few straight shots of bourbon (its OK to spill some on the thief.) -Mike
Title: Re: stolen hives
Post by: bud1 on August 12, 2011, 07:02:09 pm
well you know the swamp old buddie
Title: Re: stolen hives
Post by: AllenF on August 12, 2011, 07:18:29 pm
So just how easy to hide a body in the swamp anyways?   
Title: Re: stolen hives
Post by: yockey5 on August 12, 2011, 09:43:56 pm
So just how easy to hide a body in the swamp anyways?   

The gators do it for ya.
Title: Re: stolen hives
Post by: Shanevrr on August 12, 2011, 10:17:14 pm
WOW
Title: Re: stolen hives
Post by: sweet bee on August 13, 2011, 12:18:18 am
So sorry Schawee, Just the thought of that happening to anyone makes me sick.  What makes some people think they are ENTITLED to other peoples belongings? 

~Angie
Title: Re: stolen hives
Post by: annette on August 13, 2011, 01:53:43 am
Sorry to hear this Schawee and hope you get them back soon.

Annette
Title: Re: stolen hives
Post by: CapnChkn on August 13, 2011, 02:27:39 am
I can't imagine.  Sorry to hear that.
Title: Re: stolen hives
Post by: Tommyt on August 13, 2011, 10:16:04 am
Whats the Law?
Pretty sure Florida just passed one that put bee's into live Stock
So it would be like someone stole a Horse ,cow, goat
If you have them stamped or some how Id's and have
such a Law this guy is a Felon as of the day he stole your Livestock
Even without the Livestock law there is a net worth,If you contact the
Law and they find him/her at 100 a Nuc how many to become a felon
He stole property
I really have a problems with theft
Good Luck

Tommyt
Title: Re: stolen hives
Post by: TwoHoneys on August 13, 2011, 12:22:00 pm
Dang, schawee. I hate that.

-Liz
Title: Re: stolen hives
Post by: Intheswamp on August 13, 2011, 12:58:22 pm
So sorry Schawee, Just the thought of that happening to anyone makes me sick.  What makes some people think they are ENTITLED to other peoples belongings? 

~Angie
I dunno, ask the US Congress.
Title: Re: stolen hives
Post by: kingbee on August 14, 2011, 06:23:23 pm
...Who steals bee hives? 

Another beek?  ...

This year I have seen ads on craigslist.org advertising hives w/bees for up to $500 each.  If you are lazy enough and stupid enough to steal, then you are lazy enough and stupid enough to not check the value of a hive of bees before you boost it. 

Once a thief realizes he can sell a "hot" bee hive like one does "a pig in a poke," all bets are off.
Title: Re: stolen hives
Post by: sterling on August 16, 2011, 04:35:19 pm
So sorry Schawee, Just the thought of that happening to anyone makes me sick.  What makes some people think they are ENTITLED to other peoples belongings? 

~Angie
I dunno, ask the US Congress.
OR the U.S. PRESIDENT
Title: Re: stolen hives
Post by: Askrub on August 16, 2011, 06:36:09 pm
Schawee, if you find the thief let me know. I will bring my friend 2x4 and we will retrieve your girls.

pee'd me off!
Title: Re: stolen hives
Post by: schawee on August 17, 2011, 12:39:52 am
thanks for yall comments and concerns over the thief of my hives .this person or persons have no clue on what can happen to them when i catch them.the swamp hold s alot of secrets.i think i have the perfect bait for the gators  :evil:            http://www.shoppedornot.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/swinging-over-aligator-shopped-or-not.png (http://www.shoppedornot.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/swinging-over-aligator-shopped-or-not.png)
Title: Re: stolen hives
Post by: SerenaSYH on August 17, 2011, 12:45:04 am
Gosh, dang blip**ty, E#$^(!!!!! Very sorry to hear about this Schawee!

I am also crossing my fingers that it's an easily prosecutable stranger. The toughest part is when you have an kleptomaniac neighbor with mental issues like my parents' neighbor. She is always stealing stuff because my Dad keeps forgetting to lock the door. He is the typical "absent-minded" professor. She'll steal tiny things one at at time, but things which can drive you insane, like a new nightgown, some violin strings (her daughters play the violin), a few special canned good, things that are harder to notice until too late!!!! And sometimes it's an important item like a nice bracelet or necklace all of a sudden. My parents are too phobic to get a webcam because they think if the woman intrudes and sees the camera, she may break the computer. I told them it's worth the risk because then they can prosecute her for breaking the computer, but again that phobia that what if the webcam doesn't catch online soon enough...they are still undecided....They've lived with this neighbor for over 17 years (sigh!)....I say computers are replaceable-- just use an el-cheapo one and put the real one somewhere else, yadayadayada....

Schawee, I hope you catch them GOOD and prosecute!!!
Title: Re: stolen hives
Post by: annette on August 17, 2011, 01:03:03 pm
We have a kleptomaniac patient at work who comes to the desk and tries to steal things off the desk. One day when I was registering her, she lifted my little bee paper weight that I just love. I caught her and took it back without saying a word.

When she comes in to the office, the women in the office take turns watching her that she doesn't have the chance to steal. This is a sickness though, and I think Schawee has a different sort of problem.
Title: Re: stolen hives
Post by: Katharina on August 17, 2011, 02:03:28 pm
Get the cam, hide it so it is not visible to the clepto.  Then take it to the local TV station and tell them the story for endless suffering, and that they can't really can get any help because that person is insane.  All you are asking is that this person should not be able to leave her own property without anyone watching over her.  The embarrassment may be so bad that they move. 
Title: Re: stolen hives
Post by: schawee on August 18, 2011, 01:38:13 am
i went today to check on the remaining hives  and they are still there. investing in a camera is my next step.we been having alot of things stolen from the farm in the past month.my 4wheeler was taken around the same time the bees disappeared.i will find them and soon.        ......schawee
Title: Re: stolen hives
Post by: hankdog1 on August 18, 2011, 03:29:14 am
Well there is a simple way to get even and possibly catch them.  Take and make ya up some jack rocks and spread them suckers around.  Nothing like messing up a set of tires to keep them from comming back and who knows may even catch them if ya live in a small town word seems to get around when someone has a truck hauled in with 4 flat tires jack rocked.  Only thing is remember how many ya put out and bring a magnet before ya go driving around don't want to be on the receaving end yourself by mistake. 
Title: Re: stolen hives
Post by: BeeMaster2 on August 18, 2011, 12:22:00 pm
Well there is a simple way to get even and possibly catch them.  Take and make ya up some jack rocks and spread them suckers around.  Nothing like messing up a set of tires to keep them from coming back and who knows may even catch them if ya live in a small town word seems to get around when someone has a truck hauled in with 4 flat tires jack rocked.  Only thing is remember how many ya put out and bring a magnet before ya go driving around don't want to be on the receiving end yourself by mistake. 

OK I'll bite, how do you make a set of jack rocks. I have thought about making up 2x4's to bury with nails just below ground level when a neighbor kept having his front yard tore up by some bratty kids spinning wheels.
Jim
Title: Re: stolen hives
Post by: D Coates on August 18, 2011, 12:56:09 pm
The Romans used these very effectively against horses and foot soldiers and they've been used ever since.  When you throw them out they always land with a point facing upwards.

http://www.survivalists.us/how-to-jack-rocks-do-you-know-what-they-are/ (http://www.survivalists.us/how-to-jack-rocks-do-you-know-what-they-are/)
Title: Re: stolen hives
Post by: BeeMaster2 on August 18, 2011, 01:07:01 pm
The Romans used these very effectively against horses and foot soldiers and they've been used ever since.  When you throw them out they always land with a point facing upwards.

http://www.survivalists.us/how-to-jack-rocks-do-you-know-what-they-are/ (http://www.survivalists.us/how-to-jack-rocks-do-you-know-what-they-are/)
Thanks, I've seen them before, never knew what they were called.
Jim
Title: Re: stolen hives
Post by: rober on August 18, 2011, 01:45:09 pm
Those gators will do the trick. if you are near brackish waters the crabs will clean up after the gators.
Title: Re: stolen hives
Post by: JP on August 18, 2011, 02:14:16 pm
thanks for yall comments and concerns over the thief of my hives .this person or persons have no clue on what can happen to them when i catch them.the swamp hold s alot of secrets.i think i have the perfect bait for the gators  :evil:            http://www.shoppedornot.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/swinging-over-aligator-shopped-or-not.png (http://www.shoppedornot.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/swinging-over-aligator-shopped-or-not.png)

Anyone else can't load the link Schawee provided?


...JP
Title: Re: stolen hives
Post by: rober on August 18, 2011, 03:31:00 pm
says forbidden when i click it........
Title: Re: stolen hives
Post by: Tommyt on August 18, 2011, 03:45:19 pm
All I get is this
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Title: Re: stolen hives
Post by: annette on August 18, 2011, 07:29:21 pm
cant get it!!
Title: Re: stolen hives
Post by: wadehump on August 19, 2011, 08:34:59 am
I certainly hope you nab this guy! I hate a thief.

Oh BTW, thieves are liberals because they want something without the labor of earning it. Feed all liberals to the gators.
good thing im not around you both your eyes would have a new shade to them i have worked all my life and i am not a theif and yes i am a liberal
Title: Re: stolen hives
Post by: luvin honey on August 19, 2011, 07:16:22 pm
I certainly hope you nab this guy! I hate a thief.

Oh BTW, thieves are liberals because they want something without the labor of earning it. Feed all liberals to the gators.
Come on, seriously?!? I'm a liberal who works 8-16 hours days, every day. Please don't spew this crap.

To the OP, I really hope you catch the thief! What a rotten, crummy thing to do!
Title: Re: stolen hives
Post by: Jim134 on August 20, 2011, 08:16:33 am
thanks for yall comments and concerns over the thief of my hives .this person or persons have no clue on what can happen to them when i catch them.the swamp hold s alot of secrets.i think i have the perfect bait for the gators  :evil:            http://www.shoppedornot.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/swinging-over-aligator-shopped-or-not.png (http://www.shoppedornot.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/swinging-over-aligator-shopped-or-not.png)

Anyone else can't load the link Schawee provided?


...JP

...JP

Forbidden :lau: :lau: :lau:



    BEE HAPPY Jim 134 :)
Title: Re: stolen hives
Post by: yockey5 on August 21, 2011, 01:18:29 pm
I certainly hope you nab this guy! I hate a thief.

Oh BTW, thieves are liberals because they want something without the labor of earning it. Feed all liberals to the gators.
good thing im not around you both your eyes would have a new shade to them i have worked all my life and i am not a theif and yes i am a liberal

.....and your tax dollars goes to the coffer that feeds those that will not work. I am done here.
Title: Re: stolen hives
Post by: Apis_M_Rescue on August 21, 2011, 01:47:14 pm
JP, Schawee's link says forbiden. Hope your hard working bud catches those diseased liberal socialist free loading bee theives. Nothing worse than theives when bees are so easy to catch & wood in America tossed out & free. Bees can teach these lazy layabouts a thing or 2 on the merits of hard work :).
Title: Re: stolen hives
Post by: wadehump on August 21, 2011, 02:43:42 pm
I certainly hope you nab this guy! I hate a thief.

Oh BTW, thieves are liberals because they want something without the labor of earning it. Feed all liberals to the gators.
good thing im not around you both your eyes would have a new shade to them i have worked all my life and i am not a theif and yes i am a liberal

.....and your tax dollars goes to the coffer that feeds those that will not work. I am done here.
And tax breaks to the rich corporations so they can create jobs but only overseas for cheap labor
Title: Re: stolen hives
Post by: eivindm on August 21, 2011, 03:48:34 pm
This starts to get pretty ugly and is in no way a fruitfull discussion. I suggest it end here, and if not, think twice before any of you make any new comment. Be polite and don't push it. It is ok to disagree, but there is no excuse to be inpolite in this forum.
Title: Re: stolen hives
Post by: beemaster on August 23, 2011, 11:20:36 am
Due to no fault of Schawee's this post turned into a bit of a political/moral chess board, but that only happens in the Coffee House Forum and bi-laws state you need to keep it friendly. If there is an update, surely Schawee will keep us posted. Good luck Bruce, I hope if they try it again, you happen to be driving by!!!