Welcome, Guest

Author Topic: Feeding pear or apple juice to bees  (Read 10273 times)

Offline flyboy

  • House Bee
  • **
  • Posts: 446
  • Gender: Male
Feeding pear or apple juice to bees
« on: September 29, 2016, 09:33:02 pm »
Some friends are harvesting apples and pears and juicing them and they asked me whether it would be OK to feed the bees the juice.

Temperatures in the daytime are 60 to 65 and nights are 41 to 48 so nights are a bit cool for liquid.

However it was more of a question of the advisability of feeding them juice rather than was the temperature OK.
Cheers
Al
First packages - 2 queens and bees May 17 2014 - doing well

Offline GSF

  • Galactic Bee
  • ******
  • Posts: 4084
  • Gender: Male
Re: Feeding pear or apple juice to bees
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2016, 08:23:53 am »
Two thoughts;

There's sugar in them, yellow jackets love to tackle an apple on the ground.

Sprays?
When the law no longer protects you from the corrupt, but protects the corrupt from you - then you know your nation is doomed.

Offline bwallace23350

  • Super Bee
  • *****
  • Posts: 1642
  • Gender: Male
Re: Feeding pear or apple juice to bees
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2016, 10:29:42 am »
I don't see why not. It would be more natural than sugar water. I might check to see what they were sprayed with first though.

Offline flyboy

  • House Bee
  • **
  • Posts: 446
  • Gender: Male
Re: Feeding pear or apple juice to bees
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2016, 12:10:53 pm »
They are completely organic fruit.
Cheers
Al
First packages - 2 queens and bees May 17 2014 - doing well

Offline tjc1

  • Field Bee
  • ***
  • Posts: 752
  • Gender: Male
Re: Feeding pear or apple juice to bees
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2016, 10:57:03 am »
I would think twice on a couple of counts:
- While yellow jackets feed on ripe fruit, I've never heard of honey bees or bumblebees doing so, which makes me think it is not a suitable food for them for some reason - may cause dysentery or something?
- fruit juices at room temperature (or warmer, as in a feeder over a hive) ferment very quickly, in my experience - also probably not good for the bees.

Offline Acebird

  • Galactic Bee
  • ******
  • Posts: 8112
  • Gender: Male
  • Just do it
Re: Feeding pear or apple juice to bees
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2016, 11:38:47 am »
Honeybees don't feed on apples because of the skin but if you juice them they will go for it.
Brian Cardinal
Just do it

Offline divemaster1963

  • Heavenly Beekeeper
  • Queen Bee
  • ********
  • Posts: 1354
  • Gender: Male
  • God Protect and watch over our sons and daughters.
Re: Feeding pear or apple juice to bees
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2016, 12:48:46 pm »
My second yard is on a veriety of fruit trees. when the birds start picking them the bees are all over them. they love it because when the fruit rippin there is so little blooming they use it. I don't have to worry about them because of this. they will suck a fruit dry in about a hour if the skin is broken by the birds. I'll try and get some photos of this next year if i dont forget.


john

Offline tjc1

  • Field Bee
  • ***
  • Posts: 752
  • Gender: Male
Re: Feeding pear or apple juice to bees
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2016, 01:12:23 pm »
Well, I take it back! You learn something new about bees all the time - thanks!

Offline little john

  • Super Bee
  • *****
  • Posts: 1537
Re: Feeding pear or apple juice to bees
« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2016, 03:46:28 am »
Can't speak for apples or pears - but my girls love ripe windfall plums after the ****** birds have pecked holes in 'em.  Unfortunately, so do the wasps ...

I think the only slight caution is to watch out for fermentation - if that can be avoided, then go for it !
LJ
A Heretics Guide to Beekeeping - http://heretics-guide.atwebpages.com

Offline Acebird

  • Galactic Bee
  • ******
  • Posts: 8112
  • Gender: Male
  • Just do it
Re: Feeding pear or apple juice to bees
« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2016, 08:53:59 am »
Funny you should say that LJ.  I have to pick our plumbs early before they are perfectly ripe to beat the birds, squirrels, wasps and every darn creature that loves plumbs.  We lay them out on the dining room table for a week or so.  Then when the fruit flys come we know they are ripe.  Of course we are sampling as time goes on.  Then they are put into the refrigerator to stop the ripening process and canned at a later date.  If we don't do this we will lose every one on the tree.  Been there, done that.  Peaches and cherries are even worse.
Brian Cardinal
Just do it

Offline bwallace23350

  • Super Bee
  • *****
  • Posts: 1642
  • Gender: Male
Re: Feeding pear or apple juice to bees
« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2016, 09:51:33 am »
I did not have any figs this year because of a late freeze but does anyone know if they will go after figs this way?

Offline divemaster1963

  • Heavenly Beekeeper
  • Queen Bee
  • ********
  • Posts: 1354
  • Gender: Male
  • God Protect and watch over our sons and daughters.
Re: Feeding pear or apple juice to bees
« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2016, 10:29:29 am »
If its sweet and sugary. They will find it. Cut some in half and place on table in front of hives and see.


John

Offline Michael Bush

  • Universal Bee
  • *******
  • Posts: 19925
  • Gender: Male
    • bushfarms.com
Re: Feeding pear or apple juice to bees
« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2016, 11:50:58 am »
The solids in juice aren't very good for bees.  That said, mine do work the rotting pears when the goldenrod gives out, but until then they tend to ignore them.  I would not purposely feed fruit juice to bees.  I've done it, and it gives them dysentery and I suspect it shortens their lives.
My website:  bushfarms.com/bees.htm en espanol: bushfarms.com/es_bees.htm  auf deutsche: bushfarms.com/de_bees.htm  em portugues:  bushfarms.com/pt_bees.htm
My book:  ThePracticalBeekeeper.com
-------------------
"Everything works if you let it."--James "Big Boy" Medlin

Offline bwallace23350

  • Super Bee
  • *****
  • Posts: 1642
  • Gender: Male
Re: Feeding pear or apple juice to bees
« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2016, 09:11:01 am »
What is bee dysentery?

Offline little john

  • Super Bee
  • *****
  • Posts: 1537
Re: Feeding pear or apple juice to bees
« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2016, 10:17:09 am »
He means 'diarrhoea' - loose stools.  Much brown stuff seen smeared over the front of the hive.

Strictly speaking, dysentery is diarrhoea resulting from an infection - but beekeepers often use the terms interchangeably.
LJ
A Heretics Guide to Beekeeping - http://heretics-guide.atwebpages.com

Offline texanbelchers

  • House Bee
  • **
  • Posts: 275
  • Gender: Male
    • Mark Belcher
Re: Feeding pear or apple juice to bees
« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2016, 03:09:13 pm »
I did not have any figs this year because of a late freeze but does anyone know if they will go after figs this way?

Yes they do.

Offline azzkell

  • House Bee
  • **
  • Posts: 62
  • Gender: Male
Re: Feeding pear or apple juice to bees
« Reply #16 on: April 10, 2017, 08:49:43 am »
I have seen bees going nuts out the back of a local grocer where they had a lot of spoilt fruit. A worker there said the bees are always there over the fruit.

Offline BeeMe

  • New Bee
  • *
  • Posts: 14
  • Gender: Male
Re: Feeding pear or apple juice to bees
« Reply #17 on: July 14, 2017, 10:44:37 am »
How does it effect the flavor of the honey?
Calvin King
"But the noble make noble plans, and by noble deeds they stand."  Isaiah 32:8

Offline azzkell

  • House Bee
  • **
  • Posts: 62
  • Gender: Male
Re: Feeding pear or apple juice to bees
« Reply #18 on: July 14, 2017, 12:39:50 pm »
I imagine it would have some effect as flavour is determined by what has been foraged. To what extant or what flavour I do not know. Could be worth experimenting so long as it's not the only source of forage, as mentioned the girls get the runs.

Offline 220

  • House Bee
  • **
  • Posts: 297
  • Gender: Male
Re: Feeding pear or apple juice to bees
« Reply #19 on: July 19, 2017, 03:39:11 am »
Interesting that bees are feeding on apples, my hives are on the edge of the orchard at our farm (3500 apple trees). The varieties are mostly ones that are no longer commercially viable so the fruit if left on the trees for the birds and what ever else wants them.
Only had my bees 12 months but I haven't noticed bees feeding on apples, possibly because there is so much fruit available or maybe because last season they still had other options with a little still in bloom while the apples were available to them.
I will certainly be keeping an eye on them if we get a late summer early autumn dearth.

Offline eivindm

  • Global Moderator
  • Field Bee
  • *******
  • Posts: 707
  • Gender: Male
    • Eivind's page
Re: Feeding pear or apple juice to bees
« Reply #20 on: July 21, 2017, 07:34:54 am »
I have heard that bees can't cut into the fruit with their jaws. But if the yellow jackets has already done it, they can take the juice. I haven't seen this first hand, though.

 

anything