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BEEKEEPING LEARNING CENTER => TOP BAR HIVES - WARRE HIVES - LONG HIVES => Topic started by: emmasma on November 06, 2005, 07:38:24 pm

Title: TBH for beginner?
Post by: emmasma on November 06, 2005, 07:38:24 pm
I  haven't yet begun my beekeeping experience, but Ive been reading up on the internet and I'm eager to give it a go.  I'm very poor at the moment and can't put a lot of money into this endevor.  
      I was alittle discouraged until I started reading about top bar hives.  I am somewhat handy and could contruct them myself for free. I absolutly couldn't afford an extractor, so I would be harvesting comb honey anyway.   This really seems like my best choice.  
      Is this a bad idea? How much honey can one expect from a TBH?
Title: TBH for beginner?
Post by: Michael Bush on November 07, 2005, 11:13:25 pm
>I was alittle discouraged until I started reading about top bar hives. I am somewhat handy and could contruct them myself for free.

If you can get some scrap lumber, yes you can.

> I absolutly couldn't afford an extractor, so I would be harvesting comb honey anyway.

Or you can crush and strain some of it.  It's  nice to have some of both, but I really like comb honey.

> This really seems like my best choice.
Is this a bad idea?

I don't think so.

> How much honey can one expect from a TBH?

About that same as from any hive.  You never know.  Often, none the first year.  Sometimes 20 or 40 pounds the first year.  It depends on too many things to predict.

There are pictures of my TBH on my web site:  www.bushfarms.com
Title: Re: TBH for beginner?
Post by: Markalbob on January 24, 2007, 04:38:18 pm
So Michael,

Sorry for bumping this, but what do you consider an "average" yearly yield from your top-bars?  I am under the impression (while it varies tremendously) that a typical Langstroth is maybe 50-200lbs, but I'm really new so even that may be way, way off.
Title: Re: TBH for beginner?
Post by: Finsky on January 24, 2007, 05:03:48 pm

> How much honey can one expect from a TBH?

About that same as from any hive.  You never know.  


The yield  depends mostly on pastures, how much is nectar on fields.

Second, it depends on beekeepers, how lucky he is with his hives.
Escaping swarms are usual to beginners and when swarm goes, so goes the yield foragers.

Title: Re: TBH for beginner?
Post by: Michael Bush on January 24, 2007, 09:50:08 pm
The yield would depend, as Finsky says, on the pasture, controlling swarming, and harvesting often.

I see no reason you can't get just as much from a TBH *IF* you control swarming and harvest often.  That is not convenient if the hives are a long drive away.  But it's no problem when they are in the backyard.
Title: Re: TBH for beginner?
Post by: Apis629 on January 25, 2007, 08:16:47 pm
I would say that a Top Bar Hive is perfect for a beginner.  Not only because they're easy to make from readily available, and cheap, materials but, they offer a perspective of the hive not seen in Langstroth hives.  In my experience, the bees are less excitable in a TBH (saving the cost of  gloves, a beekeeping jacket, etc).  You won't get the same huge yields of honey but, I don't view that as a necissarily bad thing. They're alot of fun, especially in comparison to Langstroth hives.  Lang hives have perfectably respectable uses as commercial hives or for honey production but, TBHs are just a joy to work.