We know that generally the solstice is when the days begin becoming longer, Dec 21, and as the days are getting longer our bees start ramping up brood in order to be prepared for the spring blooms, splits etc, as pointed out by iddie on the recent topic: ''The Bee's spring''. We also know that bees will sometimes get ahead of the solstice as described By Coolbees and his 20 capped beautiful queen cells described in the recent topic: ''Mite Count zero''. Being the fact that bees can, will, and do raise bees in the winter months, along with queens as well, what is the situation on drones? It has been established by MR Van, Mr Bush, Oldbeavo, and myself that drones do sometimes over winter, this was discussed on the recent topic: ''Drones This Late'' I have drones even now. And the temperature has been as low 18f (-8c) in my area. Oldbeavo also commented that in Australia where he resides, the bee overwintering drones was a good sign that the hive is wintering perfectly. His winters get down to 10c which equals about 50f here. As we all know drones are a very important part of any honey bee operation. My question, when do the bees generally begin raising drones? In Coolbees circumstance, one of his hives are already has beban raising queens in area of Northern California, or are attempting to raise queens this side of the solstice. Do the bees depend of the overwintering drones to mate the new virgins, or do the bees set up drone cells accordingly and before the QC in order to insure the drones are mature enough to mate when the virgins are ready?