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BEEKEEPING LEARNING CENTER => DISEASE & PEST CONTROL => Topic started by: Jerrymac on July 14, 2005, 02:52:33 pm

Title: Is this a Pest?????
Post by: Jerrymac on July 14, 2005, 02:52:33 pm
Why is it trying to get into my hives?

http://bugguide.net/node/view/21281

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Title: Is this a Pest?????
Post by: Michael Bush on July 14, 2005, 02:57:04 pm
All kinds of beetles like to get in your hive.  :)  Most are harmless.  It doesn't appear to be a SHB even though it does have the ping pong antennae, but then many beetles do.
Title: Is this a Pest?????
Post by: Jerrymac on July 14, 2005, 04:27:40 pm
Naw. This would be a large hive beetle. About 1 1/2 inches long. Didn't get very far into the door before it got run off. I have seen this beetle hanging around the hives for the past few days. Today was the first I noticed it trying to get inside.

I was wondering what they might eat.
Title: Is this a Pest?????
Post by: thegolfpsycho on July 14, 2005, 04:49:11 pm
I've heard Texans are it's favorite meal.  BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHaH
Title: Is this a Pest?????
Post by: Jerrymac on July 14, 2005, 05:01:32 pm
:shock:
Title: Is this a Pest?????
Post by: mark on July 14, 2005, 05:46:33 pm
the beetle you have pictured is  a japanese beetle,  papillia japonica.   adults are foliage and fruit feeders and comonly found on your rose bushes.larvae feed on roots as grubs.   btw- accidently introduced to this country in 1916.
Title: Is this a Pest?????
Post by: Jerrymac on July 14, 2005, 06:31:54 pm
Quote from: mark
the beetle you have pictured is  a japanese beetle,  papillia japonica.   adults are foliage and fruit feeders and comonly found on your rose bushes.larvae feed on roots as grubs.   btw- accidently introduced to this country in 1916.


Then I ask again, Why is it trying to get into my hives?
Title: Flowers as food
Post by: Joseph Clemens on July 14, 2005, 07:34:36 pm
Doesn't it seem that concentrated floral fragrance (honey) might be an attractant for an insect whose diet includes flowers?
Title: Is this a Pest?????
Post by: Michael Bush on July 14, 2005, 09:03:35 pm
They will be attracted to anything sweet.
Title: Is this a Pest?????
Post by: Jerrymac on July 14, 2005, 11:13:23 pm
I wasn't thinking along those lines. Fruits to honey didn't cross reference.

What are brain cells???
Title: Is this a Pest?????
Post by: Robo on July 14, 2005, 11:33:39 pm
I unfortunately have plenty of experience with JB.  Without exageration, I pick 50-75 off my 12 grape vines daily.  They also seem to like my Hibiscus and Rose of Sharon leaves.  They seem to enjoy the leaves more than the flowers and I have never seen them on fruit.  I have also never seen them trying to enter a hive. Wish I could say the same about carpenter and bumble bees (I find them dead in front of the hives regularly).

So I'm not too sure that there was something luring it into hive.
Title: Is this a Pest?????
Post by: Martha Beemom on July 27, 2005, 11:13:27 am
Looks like a June Bug to me.

Martha
Title: June beetles
Post by: Joseph Clemens on July 27, 2005, 12:38:45 pm
June beetles/bugs I've seen are all brown.

http://insects.tamu.edu/fieldguide/bimg139.html
Title: june bug
Post by: stinger27 on July 28, 2005, 03:41:35 am
Not an expert but I was taught that the beetle in that picture is a June bug.
I was told that the brown beetles (similar in apearance) were potatoe bugs.
Title: Is this a Pest?????
Post by: stinger27 on July 28, 2005, 03:59:20 am
I found your beetle.  It is a japanese beetle.  If ya wanna read up on it here is the address http://www.entomology.umn.edu/cues/Web/242JapaneseBeetle.pdf
Title: Is this a Pest?????
Post by: dorado on July 28, 2005, 09:07:58 am
In my area we have Japanese beetles and June bugs. My understanding is that june bugs are slightly larger and and can vary some in color from green to brown. The characteristic that stands out most for the Japanese beetle is the light colored spots around the edge of the shell.

I have seen both around my hive the last couple of weeks. There have been as many as four to five at the entrance at one time. My bees get upset only when the beetles climb up to the entrance. Usually three or four bees will attack the beetles until they fall to the grass or fly away.

Interestly I got my first sting of the year when I stuck my foot in front of the hive to crush a couple of beetles. I walked around to the back of the hive after stepping on the beetles and was watching a couple of others fly around when I saw a bee come out from the front of the hive and fly straight for my face. She got me on the eyelid before I knew what hit me. She obviously did not appreciate my assistance at the hive front. :o
Title: Is this a Pest?????
Post by: TwT on July 28, 2005, 09:17:22 am
I seen them on my fruit tree's but none near a hive.
Title: Wow
Post by: Joseph Clemens on July 28, 2005, 11:46:25 am
Wow, I've never seen any here in Tucson, Arizona before yesterday. After the rain we had in the early afternoon I saw them on several of my bamboo plants and they were eating some of my peaches.   :cry:

And then this morning I discovered them all over my other peach trees, the apple trees. Nothing on the fig or citrus trees yet ::cross my fingers::
Title: Is this a Pest?????
Post by: drobbins on July 28, 2005, 12:47:47 pm
Japanese beetle were introduced in the US in the 1920's when the japanese government gave a bunch of ornamental cherry tree to the US government. There larvae were in the rootballs.The tree's are all around DC now. They're a terrible pest on the east coast. They'll tear your fruit trees up. Fortunately, around here they don't come out until well after the fruit tree's bloom. You can kill them with liquid sevin and I haven't had trouble with my bee's since the blooms are long gone. The biological control is called MIlky Spore, it's the bug that lives in the ground in Japan which is the natural enemy of the beetle. You get the spores for it at garden store and sprinkle it in yard and it protects for years.

You can tell I got a big problem with em   :x

Dave
Title: Is this a Pest?????
Post by: Jerrymac on July 30, 2005, 12:35:30 pm
Last weekend I got some comb out of a house that had a lot of uncapped honey in it. I have placed this in a 5 gal. bucket out by the hives for the bees to rob out. Today there were 8 japanese beetles on the comb. Eating up the honey I guess.
Title: Is this a Pest?????
Post by: ktrease on August 17, 2005, 11:46:17 am
If you have alot of these beetles you can somewhat control them by filling white plastic pails with about 3 inches of water in the bottom. The beetles are attracted to light color and they get in the water and die. We do this around our garden to keep them under control.

K
Title: Is this a Pest?????
Post by: Finsky on August 17, 2005, 12:32:12 pm
The larva of this beetle lives in the bottom of ant hive. It eates the organic material of hive bottom.

It indicates  that you have extra organic material on ant hive bottom :P

But what it really draw into hive is that eats pollen on flowers.
Big number what you told. They must be really hungry.
Title: Is this a Pest?????
Post by: Finsky on August 17, 2005, 12:44:23 pm
Quote from: dorado
In my area we have Japanese beetles and June bugs.


The bug in the picture seems to be this buddy. We say it "golden beetle" (=aurata).
http://www.treknature.com/gallery/Europe/France/photo1441.htm

Japanese beetle is  different. It has light brown color and it's larva eats all kind of roots.
http://www.entomology.umn.edu/cues/IPM-turf/p4-japanese.jpg

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