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Re: What does a deep frame of capped honey weigh?
« Reply #20 on: May 12, 2023, 07:11:22 pm »
Phil, there are centrifuge seperaters for cappings, the only issue i have with them is that you have to pump the slurry to the centrifuge.
Honey plus wax would need to be quite warm to be able to pump it.
In Oz they are quite expensive and you need quite a few hives to spread the cost over.

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Re: What does a deep frame of capped honey weigh?
« Reply #21 on: May 13, 2023, 04:27:51 pm »
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In Oz they are quite expensive


Oldbeavo I have never priced one, but I bet they are expensive here in my Country as well. I do not know how hard it would be to make one. I am placing a video which gets down to the nitty gritty about 13 to 14 minutes in from Jeff Horchoff of "Jeff Horchoff Bees"

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"Separating over 450 pounds of honey from our wax cappings."

https://youtu.be/XnzuQ6fqMbk

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Re: What does a deep frame of capped honey weigh?
« Reply #22 on: May 14, 2023, 08:10:09 pm »
Hi Phil
Not the same as the Oz systems, his is very labour intensive and you still have to deal with the cloudy honey that comes out of the seperator.
We use a Paradise honey P100 wax press, we then settle the honey from the wax press in 10 liter buckets and when warmed to un candy the small layer of wax is on the top.

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Re: What does a deep frame of capped honey weigh?
« Reply #23 on: July 12, 2023, 01:08:30 am »
So, the two medium 8 frame supers. Box, frames, Honey, pictured in the other post weighed in at 59.25 and 59.53.


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Re: What does a deep frame of capped honey weigh?
« Reply #24 on: July 12, 2023, 01:21:36 am »
So, the two medium 8 frame supers. Box, frames, Honey, pictured in the other post weighed in at 59.25 and 59.53.

I dont normally weigh anything, except final output. I take total number of production hives for the year and total lbs of extracted honey, that gives me a dollar amount for production hives.

Then I can subtract costs, equals earned credit for all production hives.


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Re: What does a deep frame of capped honey weigh?
« Reply #25 on: July 12, 2023, 02:56:45 pm »
Anyone else use 9, or even 8 frames in a 10 frame super box?

Almost all my supers run a 9-frame spacer set in a 10 frame box. I have some old school spacers that hold 8 too, got from a friend of mine who was a commercial beekeeper many years ago. I haven't used them yet, but my suspicion is that I can take those fat drawn combs from my 9 frame box and drop them into the 8 and get some real heavies
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Re: What does a deep frame of capped honey weigh?
« Reply #26 on: July 14, 2023, 01:49:26 pm »
Anyone else use 9, or even 8 frames in a 10 frame super box?

Almost all my supers run a 9-frame spacer set in a 10 frame box. I have some old school spacers that hold 8 too, got from a friend of mine who was a commercial beekeeper many years ago. I haven't used them yet, but my suspicion is that I can take those fat drawn combs from my 9 frame box and drop them into the 8 and get some real heavies

Thanks Austin, the old school spacers are a good idea in my opinion, depending upon design. I watched  a Tim Durhan video, (The Walls Bee Man), a few years ago where he had a hand held custom made spacer bar, it looked like the spacer design has a v shape, one for each frame along this bar. He could easily slp this in place and wiggle it a little to quickly and easily have the same space in between each frame..

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Re: What does a deep frame of capped honey weigh?
« Reply #27 on: July 17, 2023, 06:56:19 am »
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Thanks Austin, the old school spacers are a good idea in my opinion, depending upon design. I watched  a Tim Durhan video, (The Walls Bee Man), a few years ago where he had a hand held custom made spacer bar, it looked like the spacer design has a v shape, one for each frame along this bar. He could easily slip this in place and wiggle it a little to quickly and easily have the same space in between each frame..

Phillip

I have seen those before, seems like it would work well (unless the frames are propolised heavily to the box)
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Re: What does a deep frame of capped honey weigh?
« Reply #28 on: July 17, 2023, 07:02:45 am »
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I have seen those before, seems like it would work well (unless the frames are propolised heavily to the box)

Yes your right, good point....

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Re: What does a deep frame of capped honey weigh?
« Reply #29 on: January 23, 2024, 08:11:08 pm »
I just looked the weights up for a friend of mine and saw the post on propolis. I breed for propolis makers an havnt had any problems running the 8 frames in the supers.

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Re: What does a deep frame of capped honey weigh?
« Reply #30 on: January 24, 2024, 11:40:30 pm »
I just looked the weights up for a friend of mine and saw the post on propolis. I breed for propolis makers an havnt had any problems running the 8 frames in the supers.

Bill what do you do with the propolis? Do you sell it as well as do other things with it?

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Re: What does a deep frame of capped honey weigh?
« Reply #31 on: January 25, 2024, 06:45:03 pm »
I did at one time but when I got back into keeping I contacted the company and they no longer purchased US propolis. Go figure. Even though is a pain to deal with at times. I find the heavy propolising hives are just generally stronger, healthier hives. I did see something in ABJ for a want to buy ad. Just havnt taken the time to follow up. SHAME ON ME.
I do carry a bag of it in the truck and find it useful to patch leaks or bad spots in the hives until I get new equipment to a yard.

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Re: What does a deep frame of capped honey weigh?
« Reply #32 on: January 25, 2024, 09:06:01 pm »
I did at one time but when I got back into keeping I contacted the company and they no longer purchased US propolis. Go figure. Even though is a pain to deal with at times. I find the heavy propolising hives are just generally stronger, healthier hives. I did see something in ABJ for a want to buy ad. Just havnt taken the time to follow up. SHAME ON ME.
I do carry a bag of it in the truck and find it useful to patch leaks or bad spots in the hives until I get new equipment to a yard.
What is its consistency and what do you keep it in? And what do you use to apply it?

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Re: What does a deep frame of capped honey weigh?
« Reply #33 on: January 25, 2024, 09:51:12 pm »
If your asking about whats in my truck, I carry it in a good ziplock freezer bag, (not one of the knock offs) during warm weather its the consistency I would take a stab at silly putty. The more you work it the more malleable it becomes. If its cold it gets like hardtack, but if you throw it on the dash with the defrost on again it becomes workable. To apply think again silly putty. make it soft work it and press into gap. I know it sounds kinda strange but it works well for me.