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Offline Finman

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Not worried about winter
« on: September 21, 2004, 08:29:19 am »
Just I read this. I am not worried about winter. After 42 experience years there are no problems. Only normal going. I am ready to take 20% loss dead hives or dead queens, that is why I have extra 20% hives. Sory, now too more. Bad luck, if they all will be alive at spring! Extra hives!

Two years ago I lost exceptionally 60% my hives. My average is about 5%.

But in that panic I found tricks I could never have obliged to find out. Catastrobe was bless to me. I took into use electric heater in my hives at spring. With that warming I can get up even smallest colonies and they will capture normal yield.

Our beewinter is 5-6 months long. Bees cannot come out. After cleaning flight they spend almost 2 months in their hive from March to the first of May.

We have snow from December  to March, highest 30-50 cm. Sometimes wind gather  100 cm snow on hives. We use shelter in front of hive in order that wind and snow do not go inside hive.

They live with sugar from September to May, total 8 months. I take all honey away. I give 20 kg sugar per hive.

So easy. Only excitement is if the queen and it's descendants are genetically prepared to winter. I have bought queens from Italy, I have Elqon bees and Finnish origin Italian race.

Krainian bees I left away 2 years ago. They survive good in northern Finland, but they are too eager to swarm.

Now hives are at the ready for winter. Weather is warm and bees try to steal each other honey.

We had awfully much wasps in Finland, but now they are almost dead.

Offline Ben Framed

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Re: Not worried about winter
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2021, 10:25:45 pm »
I just ran across this while browsing. Can any of you Northern beekeepers relate?
2 Chronicles 7:14
14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

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Re: Not worried about winter
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2021, 08:09:35 pm »
I certainly can relate.  Although I'm in SE Michigan, our winters are pretty long, usually from late November to mid March & somehow the bees adapt.  I am fascinated about the statement about using electric heaters to help small hives survive in the spring.  Because nearly all of my hives are polystyrene (Anel, Technosetbee & Apimaye) I could do a lot of damage with an electric heater.  Trying a heater in a 5 frame overwintering WOODEN nuc is a project I might try next year.

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Re: Not worried about winter
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2021, 08:12:47 pm »
Thanks LawyerRick. In my area this is not something I would need but I do think it is very interesting. However, I know little to nothing about it.
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Offline 2Sox

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Re: Not worried about winter
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2021, 11:01:13 am »
I?m starting to worry less about winters here too, because our winters are much warmer. Just ten years ago I was wrapping my hives upstate NY and here in Queens.  Now I?m in Queens only and I?m thinking of not wrapping anymore because the winters have been so mild - even with the occasional cold snap.  I don?t know; might be chancing it by not doing so.

The fall flow here has been very late in arriving. I pulled honey in July and haven?t since. The hives are virtually empty now, comparative to other years. I?ll have to feed big time to get these colonies to survive. It has been raining constantly here all summer. Ida hit us hard; you probably saw the news reports. NO dry spell at all. It?s a new world now, with Climate Change.
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Re: Not worried about winter
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2021, 03:41:48 pm »
I know from previous correspondence with Finman several years ago that he was using the small reptile/terrarium heaters in poly hives/nucs to assist them through the Finish severe winters. Melting hives shouldn't be an issue.

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Re: Not worried about winter
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2021, 12:04:17 am »
NigelP Im not familiar with Finmans' writings here. But as of 2004 and 42 years of successful beekeeping at the time of his post above, he must be doing something right in his Finland! Hard to argue with the success of his methods for his location..   👍
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2 Chronicles 7:14
14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.