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Virgin Islands Nat'l Guard to seize guns/ammo ahead of Irma
« on: September 06, 2017, 03:24:25 pm »
"If" this story is true then they are up to something. I can somewhat understand them using folk's homes in case the storm has wiped out headquarters, but what the heck does grabbing guns do to help?


http://dailycaller.com/2017/09/05/virgin-islands-allows-national-guard-to-seize-guns-ammo-ahead-of-hurricane-irma/

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Re: Virgin Islands Nat'l Guard to seize guns/ammo ahead of Irma
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2017, 05:21:48 pm »

... makes it less of a problem when the Vandel Family get to playing
"Robin Hood an' 's merry band of men [1]".in the aftermath of destructive
weather events.

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Re: Virgin Islands Nat'l Guard to seize guns/ammo ahead of Irma
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2017, 06:50:29 pm »
The time you are MOST likely to need to defend your family and your property and they want to disarm you...
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Re: Virgin Islands Nat'l Guard to seize guns/ammo ahead of Irma
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2017, 04:33:42 pm »
The same thing happened after Katrina. That really raised a big stink.
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Re: Virgin Islands Nat'l Guard to seize guns/ammo ahead of Irma
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2017, 05:44:25 pm »
The same thing happened after Katrina. That really raised a big stink.
Jim

The people that suffer the most are the ones that can't afford structures that withstand hurricanes.  So although they don't have much they lose everything.  When a human being has nothing more to lose they sometimes resort to stealing.  The stealing is not a huge problem the guns are because police and rescue personal get in their way.  And secondly guns and amo get left behind for criminals to pick up.  What would be a good system is to turn in your guns and amo to a safe place so they could be returned undamaged.  I suppose the resistance to do this is that the guns would be registered to who owned them.  Some people don't like that.
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Re: Virgin Islands Nat'l Guard to seize guns/ammo ahead of Irma
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2017, 07:11:00 pm »
The police and rescue crews get in the way of people stealing?!!!!
What on Gods green earth are you talking about?


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« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2017, 09:16:25 pm »
They get in "arms" way.  The people that are stealing have arms and they shoot law enforcement and the people trying to help other people.  If they didn't have arms there would be no problem.
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Re: Virgin Islands Nat'l Guard to seize guns/ammo ahead of Irma
« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2017, 10:15:34 pm »
"If" I had guns/ammo  :wink:  it would all go with me when I evacuate and it all comes back with me when I return.  "You loot, we shoot."

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« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2017, 08:26:04 am »
That might be the worst idea.  If you got swept of the road and died it would all be for the taking.  Now if you said you had a safe where it would all be locked up it would be better to leave them.  Although, they could get damaged depending on where the safe is.
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Re: Virgin Islands Nat'l Guard to seize guns/ammo ahead of Irma
« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2017, 08:34:24 am »
Ace, you just don't understand us gun owners. Leaving it home would be like leaving our jack and lug wrench at home. In the case of needing them, we wouldn't have the tools to work with. To us, guns aren't monsters hiding in dark spaces ready to jump out and attack someone. They are just another tool in our tool box for when needed.
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Re: Virgin Islands Nat'l Guard to seize guns/ammo ahead of Irma
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2017, 09:19:51 am »
They are just another tool in our tool box for when needed.

I know a whole lot of people that have tool boxes just full of tools and have no idea how to use them.  It is my experience that those that have the most tools are the ones that know the least about using them.  I don't expect it is any different with guns.  And that is the part that you don't understand.
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Re: Virgin Islands Nat'l Guard to seize guns/ammo ahead of Irma
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2017, 10:44:22 am »
Brian,
Most Gun owners that have a lot of guns know how to use them.
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Re: Virgin Islands Nat'l Guard to seize guns/ammo ahead of Irma
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2017, 12:58:05 pm »
Meaning they know how to pull the trigger?
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Re: Virgin Islands Nat'l Guard to seize guns/ammo ahead of Irma
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2017, 01:44:10 pm »
Ace most people who use the first amendment shouldn't either, but I wouldn't advocate taking it away.
Until you lefties finally abolish the second amendment, your stuck with all us "irresponsibile" gun "slinger".

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Re: Virgin Islands Nat'l Guard to seize guns/ammo ahead of Irma
« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2017, 02:07:15 pm »
Brian,
Never forget that it is the second amendment that protects all of the other rights. When You take it away, the others will follow.
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« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2017, 05:54:47 pm »
Brian,
Never forget that it is the second amendment that protects all of the other rights. When You take it away, the others will follow.
Jim
Jim, I am not advocating taking your guns away.  I am suggesting that law enforcement or some other trust worthy entity could secure your guns for you if you don't have a way to do it when a cat 5 hurricane is blowing through.
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Re: Virgin Islands Nat'l Guard to seize guns/ammo ahead of Irma
« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2017, 05:57:02 pm »
Brian,
Never forget that it is the second amendment that protects all of the other rights. When You take it away, the others will follow.
Jim
Jim, I am not advocating taking your guns away.  I am suggesting that law enforcement or some other trust worthy entity could secure your guns for you if you don't have a way to do it when a cat 5 hurricane is blowing through.
No thanks.

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Re: Virgin Islands Nat'l Guard to seize guns/ammo ahead of Irma
« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2017, 08:09:01 pm »
Ace,

I gotta admit, your position on this has me scratching my head. :smile:
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« Reply #18 on: September 08, 2017, 08:39:49 pm »
Herb, I don't have a position.  I am not in the way of Irma and I don't have a stash of guns.  If I did I would have no fear that someone is out to take them away from me no more than I have a fear that someone is going to empty my tool box.  The tools are so old only a real craftsman would know how to use them.  A real craftsman would not want anybody else's tools so I am OK.
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« Reply #19 on: September 08, 2017, 08:52:11 pm »
"" if you don't have a way to do it when a cat 5 hurricane is blowing through.""

All but one are in a very expensive and secure safe bolted to the floor.

The one is in my left front pocket. If it becomes unsecure, I probably won't need it anymore anyway.
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