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Title: Any deer hunters?
Post by: Fishing-Nut on September 24, 2019, 10:46:32 am
I put a doe in the freezer last night with my bow....I passed on a decent 8 pointer because my wife has decided she wants to get her first deer this year and said that it has to be a buck. We've got some pretty good ones coming In on a regular basis so I hope that we can make that happen for her. I tell ya what though It was hard to pass up that buck at about 15 yards and take a shot on a doe that was staring right at me at about 35 yards.... it all came together though. 
Title: Re: Any deer hunters?
Post by: Michael Bush on September 24, 2019, 11:51:31 am
I haven't had a permit in a few years now.  Just too busy and not enough time off available from work for my bee camp, speaking and deer hunting...  We will see how it goes.  I was hoping maybe to do a little hunting this year.  I have a rifle I just had built on a Ruger #1 action that I'd like to try.
Title: Re: Any deer hunters?
Post by: jalentour on September 24, 2019, 01:43:38 pm
Archery opens 10/1.  Haven't checked my stands yet but my tower blind is full of wasps.
I prefer cooler weather to hunt. 
We have an overabundance of deer here.  Lots of does.
I use a lever action in my neck of the woods. 
Title: Re: Any deer hunters?
Post by: jtcmedic on September 24, 2019, 01:50:08 pm
Will be going during muzzleloader here it is too hot now, hope to get one this year
Title: Re: Any deer hunters?
Post by: CoolBees on September 24, 2019, 02:55:52 pm
Congrats on the Doe! - hopefully the Wife gets her buck. (You can't eat horns anyways  :cheesy: :cheesy: :cheesy:)

I fulfilled a lifetime quest this year - taking specific buck of my choosing on opening day of archery season. I've watched this Columbian Blacktail since he was born, 7 yrs ago. I got in the blind at 4 am - he finally came in 20 mins before the end of the day.



He's old, going downhill, and had double split browtines - 1st time I've seen a Columbian with split brows. I watched him growing all spring and summer. There were 7 other bucks in range when he finally appeared. He was at 11 yds before he finally offered a shot.

His dad went #19 archery SCI - also me - several yrs ago - and is mounted in my living room. I won't mount this guy. He never reached his dad's size - and I've got bigger ones walking around that I want breeding. It was a neat experience.

I'm heading for Archery Elk (cow tag) shortly.
Title: Re: Any deer hunters?
Post by: CoolBees on September 24, 2019, 02:58:37 pm
....  I have a rifle I just had built on a Ruger #1 action that I'd like to try.

That Ruger #1 is such a great platform. I've always wanted to build one up. I use the T/C Contender a lot instead.
Title: Re: Any deer hunters?
Post by: iddee on September 24, 2019, 08:47:19 pm
At 74, I quit hunting a few years back. My friends I grew up with, their kids, grand kids, and now great grand kids are hunting. They all know I am set up with power winches for hanging and skinning, and all the butchering and packing equip., and give venison to several needy people, so they bring me 20 to 25 yearly to dress, pack, and hand out. I keep what I want and give the rest away. I always hunted for food, never for trophies. I don't own a mount of any kind.
Title: Re: Any deer hunters?
Post by: incognito on September 24, 2019, 10:59:06 pm
Congratulations.
October 1 starts the season for me.

It is the right of every hunter to do whatever is they enjoy as long as it is legal, but I don't get the buck fever thing.

I bow hunt to control population which means taking doe and antlerless deer. The landowner (the town in this case) has an earn a buck program - you have to take doe when hunting their properties before you can take a buck. The problem is so bad where I am that I can get unlimited doe tags through the end of January. I can also participate in a nuisance program through March.

ETA - anyone can hit a big deer, it takes real skill to get the little ones.    :cheesy:
Title: Re: Any deer hunters?
Post by: BeeMaster2 on September 25, 2019, 08:00:03 am
Nice old buck Coolbees.
I grew up in NE Pennsylvania. They have large herds of deer up there. It is common to see 20 deer in one herd.
Here in Florida, I rarely see more than 3 at a time. I planted a 2 acre field with clay peas just so that we could see deer from the house during the day. Never saw any and the plants were full of green peas so I put my cows on them to bulk them up for winter. In about 4 days they ate most of the pea plants. Yesterday my wife, excitedly call me to our bedroom and shows me a doe and 2 yearlings in the back of the field behind the cows.
Go figure.
Jim Altmiller
Title: Re: Any deer hunters?
Post by: Michael Bush on September 25, 2019, 10:01:44 am
>... shows me a doe and 2 yearlings in the back of the field behind the cows.

They wanted a crowd to hide in...

>That Ruger #1 is such a great platform. I've always wanted to build one up. I use the T/C Contender a lot instead.

Yes.  A beautiful gun.  So is the Thompson Contender.
Title: Re: Any deer hunters?
Post by: MikeCinWV on September 25, 2019, 11:13:06 am
Hoping to get out this year.  We have just about finished all of the canned meat from last year.  Still have some canned ground meat left. I don't start taking doe until the weather breaks, until then I'm hoping Mr big steps out.   I will only shoot a buck that is bigger thany last buck so I can go years in between bucks.  I do taxidermy so I have my share of mounts.
Title: Re: Any deer hunters?
Post by: CoolBees on September 25, 2019, 06:38:48 pm
Incognito - I wish they'd let us take Doe's here. This states Wildlife Management laws are 40 years out of date. No one dares open the debate to fix them, because the result would be shutting down all hunting instantly - Democrats control every level of this state, and actual Science gets Trumped by their "agenda" every time.

Jim: that's neat that you were able to finally draw in some deer. When we moved to our current place, I saw maybe 5 deer in the 1st 10 years. I planted a small patch of alfalfa and another of clover - didn't work. Over time a herd began to grow - with my protection. What they liked to eat, as it turned out, was the leaves on my fruit trees. Once I had a herd, I culled out sub-genetic bucks for several years. Now I've got several "top 25 SCI" bucks walking around - and no rag-bucks. As I left home this morning, I had a giant buck and several younger ones and some doe's that wouldn't get off the driveway and let me out - for a few minutes.

My thoughts - fwiw - keep planting the Peas. It takes a few years for them to figure it out and move in.

 
Title: Re: Any deer hunters?
Post by: BeeMaster2 on September 25, 2019, 10:41:28 pm
Coolbees,
Right now I?m trying to find out what will make a good winter crop.
I have a week or two before I can start planting. Temperatures are still in the high nineties.
Jim Altmiller
Title: Re: Any deer hunters?
Post by: incognito on September 26, 2019, 05:08:51 pm
Coolbeans,
From what you wrote, it sounds like Wildlife Management may have gotten it right - protect the does until the population rises. Population control is about does, not bucks. Take bucks only until the population rises.
In certain parts of New York State bucks have to have a minimum antler size to be legally taken.

We have the opposite situation, too many does, too many deer reproducing.

Anyone who wants to learn more about deer population management should read the following:
http://www.dec.ny.gov/docs/wildlife_pdf/deerplan2012.pdf (http://www.dec.ny.gov/docs/wildlife_pdf/deerplan2012.pdf)
Title: Re: Any deer hunters?
Post by: jtcmedic on September 26, 2019, 09:12:10 pm
This was my best Florida deer 2017 can still remember the shot a great harvest
Title: Re: Any deer hunters?
Post by: Fishing-Nut on September 27, 2019, 09:52:42 am
Jtmedic that's a good Florida deer for sure! Are you a medic? Is that where your screen name comes from? My wife is in ems to.  Coolbees those are some good ones as well. I'll try to post up some trail cam pics of the ones my wife has been after. 
Title: Re: Any deer hunters?
Post by: jtcmedic on September 27, 2019, 02:46:49 pm
Jtmedic that's a good Florida deer for sure! Are you a medic? Is that where your screen name comes from? My wife is in ems to.  Coolbees those are some good ones as well. I'll try to post up some trail cam pics of the ones my wife has been after.
Fishing
Yep firefighter medic  he made great sausage and loins  pulling cameras after I pick my boy up at the bus stop
Title: Re: Any deer hunters?
Post by: jalentour on November 11, 2019, 10:23:46 pm
So I spent the pre full moon and post full moon in the stand with a bunch of small bucks going wacky.  Was hoping for more during archery.  Gun starts soon.  Those photos of bucks you showed are nice.  Show your best this month.
Title: Re: Any deer hunters?
Post by: jtcmedic on November 12, 2019, 02:51:59 pm
Just got the duel call and spent the afternoon reading up on it, got to the stand a little late and haven?t seen a buck not on camera. Grunted and let out a doe belt and this guy let out a massive grunt, I responded with a couple tending grunts and he ran towards the direction, was able to take a rear quartering shot and got the lung and down he went. My brother in-law came out to help with his Prius we loaded it up
Title: Re: Any deer hunters?
Post by: BeeMaster2 on November 13, 2019, 06:16:10 am
That is a nice buck JT. Congratulations.
Jim Altmiller
Title: Re: Any deer hunters?
Post by: Michael Bush on November 13, 2019, 02:16:21 pm
My wife has a Prius now that looks just like that one.  So I sent her the picture of the deer on the Prius .  She is adamant that I don't get blood all over her car...  I'm trying to find another Gen 1 Prius to fix up.  I guess then I'll have two Prii...
Title: Re: Any deer hunters?
Post by: jalentour on November 13, 2019, 09:28:38 pm
You know...
Those Prius aren't so bad...
Title: Re: Any deer hunters?
Post by: BeeMaster2 on November 13, 2019, 11:13:29 pm
When they came out, I really figured the batteries would only last 5 years at best and the car would be scrap. A year ago my buddy was buying and selling old used ones and it was working pretty well. I bought a 2014 model last year for my wife last when she totaled her VW.
It averages 50 miles to the gallon and is a really nice car.
I would recommend them.
Jim Altmiller
Title: Re: Any deer hunters?
Post by: jalentour on November 14, 2019, 12:57:03 pm
Saw,
I agree, they are great, but expensive.
I bought one a few years ago while one of my kids was on a traveling baseball team.  We got it up to 100+ on I-75 in Tennessee.  Great mileage and handling.  Lots of space for a driver.  I would recommend. 
Title: Re: Any deer hunters?
Post by: jtcmedic on November 14, 2019, 04:15:14 pm
That is a nice buck JT. Congratulations.
Jim Altmiller
thanks
Title: Re: Any deer hunters?
Post by: Michael Bush on November 14, 2019, 05:50:55 pm
>I agree, they are great, but expensive.

When they came out I said I'd wait until I could get a used one cheap.  I paid $1200 for mine and then spent $2000 for a new warrantied modern style battery for the old style Prius (Gen 1).  So I've got $3200 in it.  It's been a pleasure.  Especially when buying gas.
Title: Re: Any deer hunters?
Post by: BeeMaster2 on November 15, 2019, 09:18:16 pm
>I agree, they are great, but expensive.

When they came out I said I'd wait until I could get a used one cheap.  I paid $1200 for mine and then spent $2000 for a new warrantied modern style battery for the old style Prius (Gen 1).  So I've got $3200 in it.  It's been a pleasure.  Especially when buying gas.
Heh, usually can fill up the tank for under $20.
Jim Altmiller
Title: Re: Any deer hunters?
Post by: Ben Framed on November 16, 2019, 09:13:49 pm
>I agree, they are great, but expensive.

When they came out I said I'd wait until I could get a used one cheap.  I paid $1200 for mine and then spent $2000 for a new warrantied modern style battery for the old style Prius (Gen 1).  So I've got $3200 in it.  It's been a pleasure.  Especially when buying gas.
Heh, usually can fill up the tank for under $20.
Jim Altmiller

Fellows, y'all are making me want a Prius!
Title: Re: Any deer hunters?
Post by: Michael Bush on November 18, 2019, 08:37:08 am
The Ruger #1 .45-70-730 did its job yesterday morning.  I spent the rest of the day butchering.  I'm exhausted.  I still have two permits left.  My son also has two permits and my grandson has a permit...
Title: Re: Any deer hunters?
Post by: Ben Framed on November 18, 2019, 10:55:39 pm
The Ruger #1 .45-70-730 did its job yesterday morning.  I spent the rest of the day butchering.  I'm exhausted.  I still have two permits left.  My son also has two permits and my grandson has a permit...

Congrats Mr Bush. the ruger #1 .45-70-730 is a nice rifle and a real meat getter.  Man, I do not envy the butchering part. Real work! But the eating part is awesome!  I wonder if game hind quarters can be smoked like pork. Actually  we sugar cured our hams when I was growing up.
Title: Re: Any deer hunters?
Post by: BeeMaster2 on November 19, 2019, 12:39:30 am
Congratulations Michael.
Enjoy.
Jim Altmiller
Title: Re: Any deer hunters?
Post by: Michael Bush on November 19, 2019, 07:41:46 am
>Congrats Mr Bush. the ruger #1 .45-70-730 is a nice rifle and a real meat getter.

This one is special.  It has a fast 1 in 12 twist instead of the usual 1-20 or slower twist.  so I can stabilize the 730 grain bullet.  I have that going about 760 fps which means it doesn't carry far and isn't very loud (subsonic).  It still makes a boom, but it gets rid of that "crack" when the sound barrier gets broken.  Back in Wyoming and Western Nebraska I loved my .25-06 but it would carry for miles and that isn't such a good thing here where the people are more dense.  Out there the shots were often pretty long.

> Man, I do not envy the butchering part. Real work! But the eating part is awesome!

Yes it is.

> I wonder if game hind quarters can be smoked like pork. Actually  we sugar cured our hams when I was growing up.

Curing is more complex than just smoking, of course.  I don't know what would happen if you cured it.  I imagine it would keep if you did it the same as a ham, but I have no idea what it would taste like.  Probably pretty good, but then it might be too dry.  There is a LOT more fat in a pig than a deer and that tends to keep it somewhat moist.  I have cut it all up into thin steaks and dried and smoked it.  Then I would take it on hunting trips and eat it for jerky or soak it up and fry it for steak or break it up and put it in stew...  I would have done that this time if I had the energy and the time.
Title: Re: Any deer hunters?
Post by: Michael Bush on November 19, 2019, 08:10:21 am
The Ruger #1 also has an octagon 20" barrel which on a single shot seems really short.  It's very handy.
Title: Re: Any deer hunters?
Post by: jtcmedic on November 21, 2019, 08:04:47 am
The Ruger #1 .45-70-730 did its job yesterday morning.  I spent the rest of the day butchering.  I'm exhausted.  I still have two permits left.  My son also has two permits and my grandson has a permit...
well done ,  hope your son and grandson get theirs also
Title: Re: Any deer hunters?
Post by: Michael Bush on November 25, 2019, 10:53:41 am
Well, early firearms season is over and we didn't get another deer.  I have a permit that's good for archery, muzzle loader and late firearms season.  We will see.  I may have to go looking for my bow.  I haven't seen it in a while...  Maybe I need to get a muzzle loader, but I can't say I've been that enamored with black powder... it's a pain.
Title: Re: Any deer hunters?
Post by: Ben Framed on November 25, 2019, 01:23:24 pm
Mr Bush I use to hunt with a Thompson Center Hawkins style rifle that I loved.  It packs  a punch and accuracy to boot 🥾.
Phillip
Title: Re: Any deer hunters?
Post by: Michael Bush on November 25, 2019, 02:23:25 pm
I was contemplating getting a Thompson Center Encore pistol and then a muzzle loader barrel and maybe some other barrels eventually.  I am fond of single shot rifles and pistols.
Title: Re: Any deer hunters?
Post by: Ben Framed on November 25, 2019, 02:39:40 pm
When I bought mine I also bought a maxi ball mold. The accuracy is more than acceptable. Though I haven?t shot it in years.
Title: Re: Any deer hunters?
Post by: jtcmedic on November 26, 2019, 06:17:22 pm
All I shoot is muzzleloader, have a lhr redemption and it?s amazing, switched to blackhorn 209 and it is night and day difference