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Re: When will the ignorant get smart
« Reply #40 on: September 20, 2021, 09:46:52 pm »
>For those that do they need an ID it is called a covid passport.

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Re: When will the ignorant get smart
« Reply #41 on: September 21, 2021, 12:37:01 am »
Hi Folks,

Interestingly, my wife had to go to the ER Sunday at noon. (I did too) This is a big, beautiful, regional hospital. The Beth Israel Deaconess. A lot of people know its name.

Anywayyyy, No covid people in there! Elderly lady who tripped and fell. Infant who "fell" (I think an abuse report should be filed. Stupid mother). A number of quiet others. NO COVID! PRETTY QUIET! Everyone competent wore masks. I would think hospitals are a bad place to be. We were nervous, but nobody sputtering and wheezing. No screams for the jab before it's too late. No cries of PLEASE DON"T LET ME DIE! Kinda looked like the olde days, with masks!

My wife and I were talking. She has to see our pc to get stitches out Friday. My wife does get the yearly flu shot. She said she could get it Friday. Our pc can not give the covid jab.  Around here you can only get it at drug stores. We think it's because if doctors DID give it, it would be covered by our insurance. If we go to the CVS drug store, the Government pays for it. We're not sure about this, but it is insidious enough to be true. I think I heard they get $1,400 per shot given. TRUE? What have you heard.

WIN-WIN for big business. LOSE_LOSE for the taxpayer.

Why is it that EVERYTHING the government is doing is DEPLETEING our country. Every mis-step costs ME money. WHOOPS! We accidentally left all that stuff in Afghanistan. WHOOPS! Cant send all those hitch-hikers home. Gotta give them aid.

And how come we can't get OUR money back from corrupt people. Assraf Ghani fled with 159 MILLION. GET IT BACK! I heard Assraf was a personal friend of Blinkin, from the good old days at Johns Hopkins.

I'm tired. And I have to go to work in the morning. Somebody's gotta pay the bills around here.

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Re: When will the ignorant get smart
« Reply #42 on: September 30, 2021, 10:42:30 pm »
"When will the ignorant get smart?"

Good question.....



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Re: When will the ignorant get smart
« Reply #43 on: October 12, 2021, 07:57:17 pm »
>Pfizer's vaccine is now fully approved.

And this is not really true.  The only vaccines being given are not fully approved.  Pfizer got a vaccine with a different name and label approved (without any of the actual required testing being done) but that vaccine with that name and label is NOT available to anyone.  So this whole "approval" is a sleight of hand.
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Re: When will the ignorant get smart
« Reply #44 on: December 06, 2021, 02:00:57 pm »
Bill Maher?  A little responsibility you say? Surely you are not accusing the liberal media? And many many many have come down with it, 'after' ? Including yourself? Surely you have flown the coop Bill?


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Re: When will the ignorant get smart
« Reply #45 on: December 10, 2021, 07:25:20 am »
True or false? FDA says it now needs 75 years before releasing Pfizer COVID-19 data to the public. Apparently the FDA wishes to keep citizens ignorant of the facts? If this is true what is the big secrets?

So to answer your question Ace:  >When will the ignorant get smart?<
Answer: 75 year; maybe..



https://www.theepochtimes.com/fda-says-it-now-needs-75-years-to-fully-release-pfizer-covid-19-vaccine-data_4145410.html
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Re: When will the ignorant get smart
« Reply #46 on: December 10, 2021, 07:32:16 am »
True or false? FDA says it now needs 75 years before releasing Pfizer COVID-19 data to the public. Apparently the FDA wishes to keep citizens ignorant of the facts? If this is true what is the big secrets?

So to answer your question Ace:  >When will the ignorant get smart?<
Answer: 75 years; maybe..



https://www.theepochtimes.com/fda-says-it-now-needs-75-years-to-fully-release-pfizer-covid-19-vaccine-data_4145410.html


A quick Message from President John F Kennedy about secrecy...

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Re: When will the ignorant get smart
« Reply #47 on: December 10, 2021, 09:11:54 am »

Kennedy era Democrats were very conservative and had the nations interest as the main goal as you can here in this speech. Today?s Democrats are only about turning this country into a socialist run total government dependency country. Exactly what I spent half of my life fighting. It really makes me sick. I?m sure JFK is rolling over in his grave over what his party has turned into.
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Re: When will the ignorant get smart
« Reply #48 on: December 10, 2021, 01:07:41 pm »
If you listen slowly, and VERY CLOSELY to each word of every sentence, one sentence at a time, with each sentence building on the last, slowly paints a picture you may plainly and clearly see and understand EXACTLY by his words, that there were goings on behind the scenes by forces of evil; Plotting and scheming these same, being rehearsed, manufactured, and implemented, (in secret), even then by those HE was speaking of. All he ask for was a honest and open press.  To be 'bold and responsible'. To report the truth with nothing hidden, nothing held back, even and including, himself and his very own administration. A fair and balanced reporting to Americans for the good of America.

Though I can't prove it; I am of the opinion, his not playing ball cost his life. It might have been different is the press would have been Americans first, heeding his pleas. Getting the truth out to We The People of his day and time. He stated his confidence in Americans; IF they had a clear understanding of the un-hidden truth. He knew like minded people, Americans, no matter the 'party' would be united in stomping out the fires of anything which was anti-American according to Our clear document, Our Constitution. While reminding the press of such.

He was an American. Not just an American 'in name only'. He was a Loyal American, a loyalty which came before the loyalty of his party or the politics of that party, just as it should be.  It is apparent the plotters which he spoke of, and schemes of those plots, have moved ahead through the years, advancing the goals of which he spoke and warned. If President Kennedy was born in a different era, this time and era, running for President, giving that same speech, I have little doubt that hate would be rained down upon him, openly and publicly. He may be publicly hated just as much by the left, no matter which party the left may be associated with, just as surely as the the last (America First) President was and is hated . 

Ronald Reagan another GREAT Democrat of that day, left the party just one year after President Kennedys' great Speech. President Regan knew the grave dangers of forces seeking to take down America from within. He too warned us by saying, > Freedom is a fragile thing and is never more than one generation away from extinction. It is not ours by inheritance; it must be fought for and defended constantly by each generation, for it comes only once to a people. Those who have known freedom, and then lost it, have never known it again.<

But be not deceived, it is not just in one party, there are wolves in sheep clothing in the Republican Party as well. These two men knew it. They were not deceived by 'the swamp of their day' of either party. Their focus was on America and the goodness and well being of Americans before any party. They understood, they 'got it' as Kathy might say.

 This is all my opinion.

Undistorted history, when can be found such as this spearheaded speech by President Kennedy, is a clear roadmap for what lies ahead if not understood and voted out. Not voting against the party, but the idealism of the party, the idealism which that party represents.

Mr Reagan that great democrat which switched "I did not leave the Democratic Party, the party left me." He also   said; "Freedom is fragile."

And it is...........
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Re: When will the ignorant get smart
« Reply #49 on: December 12, 2021, 08:54:21 am »
Phil you would make a great preacher.
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Re: When will the ignorant get smart
« Reply #50 on: December 12, 2021, 02:36:46 pm »
Phil you would make a great preacher.

Thanks Ace, But I don't feel I am good enough to be a preacher.






 
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Re: When will the ignorant get smart
« Reply #51 on: December 13, 2021, 12:44:49 am »
                                 


                                                 

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WHO: No Deaths Reported as a Result of Omicron Variant to Date December 10, 2021 Updated: December 12, 2021
By Nathan Worcester 


The World Health Organization (WHO) says it hasn't documented any deaths yet from the Omicron variant of the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) virus, which causes COVID-19.

"For Omicron, we have not had any deaths reported, but it is still early in the clinical course of the disease and this may change." The WHO told The Epoch Times.

When reached for comment by The Epoch Times, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) sent its report on the Omicron variant in the United States for Dec. 1 through Dec. 8. It shows that there were no documented deaths from Omicron during that period.

The WHO's latest weekly epidemiological update, on Dec. 7, showed that all 212 Omicron cases documented across 18 European Union (EU) countries were either mild or asymptomatic.

"While South Africa saw an 82 percent increase in hospital admissions due to COVID-19 (from 502 to 912) during the week 28 November/ 4 December 2021, it is not yet known the proportion of these with the Omicron variant," the report notes.

Omicron has also been detected in the United States, first in California and later in Colorado, New York, Maryland, Utah, and many other states.

The first U.S. patient with the variant was identified in San Francisco, testing positive for COVID-19 on Nov. 29 after returning from a trip to South Africa on Nov. 22. However, the California Department of Public Health has confirmed to the Los Angeles Times that the variant was present in wastewater as early as Nov. 25.

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A patient is treated in a hospital in Johannesburg, in a file photograph. (Sumaya Hisham/Reuters)
Originally known as B.1.1.529, the variant first made international headlines on Nov. 26, soon after it was initially detected in South Africa.

That day, the WHO named B.1.1.529 as Omicron and labeled it a "variant of concern." Two days later, in a technical brief, it said the strain could present a "very high" risk, citing its large number of mutations.

Meanwhile, Dr. Angelique Coetzee, the chair of the South African Medical Association and one of the first doctors to treat patients with Omicron has consistently maintained that Omicron is a mild variant.

"Let me be clear: nothing I have seen about this new variant warrants the extreme action the UK government has taken in response to it," she wrote in The Daily Mail.


Coetzee was referring to "heavy travel restrictions on flights from across southern Africa, as well as imposing tighter rules at home on mask-wearing, fines, and extended quarantines."

"No one here in South Africa is known to have been [hospitalized] with the Omicron variant, nor is anyone here believed to have fallen seriously ill with it," she wrote.

More recently, Coetzee told ThePrint that Omicron symptoms have been mild in both vaccinated and unvaccinated patients.

"In the beginning of any wave, children and younger people are the first to be affected," she told ThePrint. "As the wave progresses, more elderly, people with comorbidities, start getting affected. When that happens, we will know exactly how many severe cases there are."







https://www.theepochtimes.com/no-confirmed-omicron-deaths-so-far-who-cdc_4150331.html?utm_campaign=socialshare_email
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Re: When will the ignorant get smart
« Reply #52 on: December 15, 2021, 12:10:14 am »
Has the man who invented mRNA technology flipped his lid? Has he went bonkers? You tell me...


https://twitter.com/i/status/1470759488194248707

Inventor of mRNA Vaccine Warns Parents: Jabs Could Permanently Damage Children?s Critical Organs
by Adan Salazar
December 14th 2021, 1:05 pm


"Before you inject your child " a decision that is irreversible " I wanted to let you know the scientific facts about this genetic vaccine, which is based on the mRNA vaccine technology I created,? Dr. Malone begins.


Malone goes on to explain the spike proteins induced by the vaccine could do permanent damage to a child?s brain, nervous system, heart and blood vessels, their reproductive system and their immune system.

"The most alarming point about this is that once these damages have occurred, they are irreparable," Malone warns, adding that "This vaccine can cause reproductive damage that could affect future generations of your family."


Furthermore, Malone points out the mRNA jabs have not undergone significant testing, so long-term risks and complications that could turn up later down the road haven?t been properly assessed.

"Ask yourself if you want your own child to be part of the most radical medical experiment in human history," Malone says.

Lastly, Malone says the premise that children need to be given the vaccine is faulty and that their immunity "after getting Covid" is crucial so the human immune system can adapt to the disease.

"In summary: there is no benefit for your children or your family to be vaccinating your children against the small risks of the virus, given the known health risks of the vaccine that as a parent, you and your children may have to live with for the rest of their lives."

Dr. Malone concludes by urging parents and grandparents to ?resist and fight to protect your children.?

Read a transcript of Dr. Malone?s statement below:

My name is Robert Malone, and I am speaking to you as a parent, grandparent, physician and scientist. I don't usually read from a prepared speech, but this is so important that I wanted to make sure that I get every single word and scientific fact correct.

I stand by this statement with a career dedicated to vaccine research and development. I'm vaccinated for COVID and I'm generally pro-vaccination. I have devoted my entire career to developing safe and effective ways to prevent and treat infectious diseases.

After this, I will be posting the text of this statement so you can share it with your friends and family.

Before you inject your child " a decision that is irreversible " I wanted to let you know the scientific facts about this genetic vaccine, which is based on the mRNA vaccine technology I created:

There are three issues parents need to understand:

● The first is that a viral gene will be injected into your children's cells. This gene forces your child's body to make toxic spike proteins. These proteins often cause permanent damage in children's critical organs, including

    ○ Their brain and nervous system

    ○ Their heart and blood vessels, including blood clots

    ○ Their reproductive system

    ○ And this vaccine can trigger fundamental changes to their immune system

● The most alarming point about this is that once these damages have occurred, they are irreparable

    ○ You can't fix the lesions within their brain

    ○ You can't repair heart tissue scarring

    ○ You can't repair a genetically reset immune system, and

    ○ This vaccine can cause reproductive damage that could affect future generations of your family

● The second thing you need to know about is the fact that this novel technology has not been adequately tested.

    ○ We need at least 5 years of testing/research before we can really understand the risks

    ○ Harms and risks from new medicines often become revealed many years later

● Ask yourself if you want your own child to be part of the most radical medical experiment in human history

● One final point: the reason they're giving you to vaccinate your child is a lie.

    ○ Your children represent no danger to their parents or grandparents

    ○ It's actually the opposite. Their immunity, after getting COVID, is critical to save your family if not the world from this disease

In summary: there is no benefit for your children or your family to be vaccinating your children against the small risks of the virus, given the known health risks of the vaccine that as a parent, you and your children may have to live with for the rest of their lives.

The risk/benefit analysis isn't even close.

As a parent and grandparent, my recommendation to you is to resist and fight to protect your children.

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Re: When will the ignorant get smart
« Reply #53 on: December 15, 2021, 08:27:36 am »
Phil, can you stop with the misinformation.  There should be a standard for being a moderator.  You are still posting more than anyone on the whole forum.
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« Reply #54 on: December 15, 2021, 10:09:05 am »
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Phil, can you stop with the misinformation.  There should be a standard for being a moderator.

Well ace I found this article, read it, then 'questioned it'. Placed it here for your viewing, inspection, and opinion, asking you if this fellows words, the words of the CREATOR of mRNA technology himself, if he has flipped his lid.

That is a legitimate question by any standard. I provided the article, which provided other links, along with a video here for your viewing, a 'video' of the top dog scientist himself, the very inventor of mRNA technology speaking from his own mouth, yes  the man himself, thus giving you the option and opportunity to debunk or confirm with facts. Which you have done neither. Only in turn you attack me, 'by accusing me'  "stop with the mis-information". (the very fellow who has been more than fair with you, the moderator as you pointed out). I do not know if the scientist has flipped his wig, though I rather doubt it. It did catch my attention and I found it worth 'posting for questioning', considering the source of the information, the scientist himself. Straight from the horses mouth if you will, by the video of him and relayed by the article.

Allow me to remind you, you and I are in America, Not Russia, Not China nor Nazi Germany of the 1930s and 40s.  If you believe So strongly in suppressing free speech or suppressing the questioning of articles any member may post here for examination and conversation, why don't you move to one of these other countries who believe likewise? You might fit right in.
:shocked:  :tongue:  :cheesy:

Maybe it is really you who is spreading the misinformation? (Considering the facts just written). You certainly have attempted distorting the reasoning of the post in this situation.

The real question is when will the ignorant get smart. Ignorant means the uninformed. Apparently you do not want opposing views other than your own seen or known, a tactic straight out of the Gestapo book.
Reminding you again this fellows views are 'not that of my own'. But his, the inventor of mRNA technology himself.
Who are 'you' to debunk him??? What are your credentials? Where are you sources?
   :tongue: :cry:

PS  In your haste to attack me, perhaps you missed the video of the man himself. It is posted at the very top/beginning of the article itself. But you had better watch it quickly if you wish to see it, as there are others attempting to suppress free speech as well. Just as President Kennedy warned. The video might not survive the tyranny very long and may soon be taken down. I would not be surprised.
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« Reply #55 on: December 15, 2021, 12:07:45 pm »
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Phil, can you stop with the misinformation

There is a difference between false info and different POV or info.  I know this is a hard concept for leftists to absorb, but you have so many examples of things the left has gotten wrong when they labeled it "misinformation" that you should be able to figure it out by now.

It is the history of all science, and medicine in particular, that people have different points of view on things like treatments and causes.  It is the history of totalitarians like the Catholic Church of yesterday, or the leftists of today, that they crush different ideas based on the thing they have come to believe.  "If I believe it, it is the only acceptable truth!".
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« Reply #56 on: December 15, 2021, 12:52:52 pm »
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or the leftists of today, that they crush different ideas based on the thing they have come to believe.  "If I believe it, it is the only acceptable truth!"

So it seems..




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« Reply #57 on: December 16, 2021, 05:58:41 am »
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There is a difference between false info and different POV or info.

Absolutely!

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It is the history of all science, and medicine in particular, that people have different points of view on things like treatments and causes.

Yes again I agree. In this 'unique' case it is 'the creator of mRNA technology' himself Dr Malone, who has the opposing point of view than that of Dr Ace. lol
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It's Dr Aces' point of view vs Dr RW Malones' point of view.
 
The new question is: Who do you trust to be the better informed expert? lol



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« Reply #59 on: December 16, 2021, 07:36:50 am »
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2021/08/robert-malone-vaccine-inventor-vaccine-skeptic/619734/
Cheers
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That is as a good example of a totally drama queen, smoke and mirror diversional, classic hit piece report as I have read in quiet sometime gww.  :cool: :cool:
Reminds me of the Tesla / Edison drama which is still debated even today.  Of course many say Tesla never got the recognition he deserved though he was the man while Edison got the credit.

But you can plainly see who?s name Elon Musk put on his electric car. It?s not Edison. lol

Thanks for the humor  :grin:
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