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Title: Beeing
Post by: BeeMaster2 on June 19, 2019, 08:46:58 am
Have you seen this?

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/b-box-1st-ever-hive-designed-for-home-beekeeping?utm_content=campaigns_one_column6_hero_image&utm_source=sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=bck-06192019emerging&utm_term=#/

It is pretty expensive and I have my doubts about the bees building comb in the upper chamber. I think it will bee too hot, especially here in Florida. You will probably have to cover it up and keep direct sunlight off of it.
Jim Altmiller
Title: Re: Beeing
Post by: Acebird on June 19, 2019, 09:01:38 am
The bees might use the upper boxes but curing the honey would not be optimum.  They have made proto types though so they probably know more then we do.

I like the chimney idea.
Title: Re: Beeing
Post by: Michael Bush on June 19, 2019, 11:26:00 am
It looks like it would swarm all the time.  Way too small.
Title: Re: Beeing
Post by: BeeMaster2 on June 19, 2019, 02:16:01 pm
Michael,
I agree. You will have to keep opening it up to remove comb and bees in order to minimize the swarming.
Jim Altmiller
Title: Re: Beeing
Post by: Bob Wilson on June 19, 2019, 06:34:00 pm
It looks like those "quadratic beehives" by Phill Chandler on Youtube. "The most versatile beehive in the world". I thought they looked like more work for
 less success.
Title: Re: Beeing
Post by: Dabbler on June 20, 2019, 08:04:45 am
To my eye, it looks like an over engineered take on the honeycomb in the mason jar concept.

The chimney idea is nice. I remember seeing a post somewhere of a Beek that had one or more colonies in their garage and had a large PVC pipe going out the roof.

I guess this is another product for the haver.
Title: Re: Beeing
Post by: Acebird on June 20, 2019, 08:23:25 am
Michael,
I agree. You will have to keep opening it up to remove comb and bees in order to minimize the swarming.
Jim Altmiller

I would assume the sliding gate has a bee escape built in because they advertise the come is clean of bees when they harvest.  I would like to know how they perfected the bee escape under all conditions.
Title: Re: Beeing
Post by: Ben Framed on June 22, 2019, 10:57:17 pm
The honey gathering idea will appeal to the unknowing, would be beekeeper, in my opinion, beside that, Personally, I like Jims observation hive much much better. But this has strong marketing and much backing, promoting its appeal, so we will see.
Title: Beeing
Post by: TheHoneyPump on July 08, 2019, 03:13:58 pm
It will sell, for sure.  All about marketing, the general public hype about disappearing bees, and capitalizing on the inexperienced consumers.   Shortly after the launch, 6m to 1y, these will be all over craigslist. As well as requests for swarm catchers.
Far too many issues with these than I wish to put effort into commenting on.  Good concept for the human, not likely to be used by the bee in ways that the human intends wants and expects.
As a side track ?> What I would like to see, with respect to the bee population problem, is less focus on the honey bee and much much more focus on the wild bees: solitary, mason, bumble, etc.  No one is saving them.  Those are much more important, imho, than the honey bee. Much would be gained by shifting the general public focus onto those bees.  For I fear that the current focus of ideas and products like this, though well intentioned, ultimately kill more honey bees than help.
There is an need, much overdue, for a significant paradigm shift in public focus of the bee problem away from the honeybee and onto the native bees species.  The honey bee is NOT in trouble.  We have many professionals supporting the pollinating and honey industries looking after the honey bee.   The other bee species do not have that support. 
Please shift the focus and change the conversations in your circles of influence.  Away from the honey bee, and onto the wild native bees of your area of the planet, wherever that may bee. It will take a global effort. Eg:  Sell more mason bee houses, leaf cutter huts, set out bumble rumble boxes, etc.  Reduce pesticide use. 

Thank you,
Title: Re: Beeing
Post by: The15thMember on July 08, 2019, 07:15:36 pm
It will sell, for sure.  All about marketing, the general public hype about disappearing bees, and capitalizing on the inexperienced consumers.   Shortly after the launch, 6m to 1y, these will be all over craigslist. As well as requests for swarm catchers.
Far too many issues with these than I wish to put effort into commenting on.  Good concept for the human, not likely to be used by the bee in ways that the human intends wants and expects.
As a side track ?> What I would like to see, with respect to the bee population problem, is less focus on the honey bee and much much more focus on the wild bees: solitary, mason, bumble, etc.  No one is saving them.  Those are much more important, imho, than the honey bee. Much would be gained by shifting the general public focus onto those bees.  For I fear that the current focus of ideas and products like this, though well intentioned, ultimately kill more honey bees than help.
There is an need, much overdue, for a significant paradigm shift in public focus of the bee problem away from the honeybee and onto the native bees species.  The honey bee is NOT in trouble.  We have many professionals supporting the pollinating and honey industries looking after the honey bee.   The other bee species do not have that support. 
Please shift the focus and change the conversations in your circles of influence.  Away from the honey bee, and onto the wild native bees of your area of the planet, wherever that may bee. It will take a global effort. Eg:  Sell more mason bee houses, leaf cutter huts, set out bumble rumble boxes, etc.  Reduce pesticide use. 

Thank you,
AMEN!