Author Topic: Titebond lll - alternative (Read 12883 times)

max2 · « **on:** December 11, 2020, 08:36:28 pm »

I have used Titebond lll for many years to glue frames and supers but it has not been available in Australia for many months.
Any suggestions for an alternative?

kanga · « **Reply #1 on:** December 12, 2020, 01:44:19 am »

It looks like Carbatec will be stocking it.
https://www.carbatec.com.au/titebond-3-wood-glue-473ml-green
Kev

max2 · « **Reply #2 on:** December 12, 2020, 01:58:13 am »

It says " coming soon - 3 weeks" also postage is very expensive to Qld

Garigal · « **Reply #3 on:** December 12, 2020, 05:54:02 am »

Selleys Aquadhere Exterior or Durabond is even better.

crispy · « **Reply #4 on:** December 12, 2020, 08:02:11 am »

Try timbecon in W.A they normally have it i have 3 types including the waterproof glue great stuff

William Bagwell · « **Reply #5 on:** December 12, 2020, 10:15:32 am »

Watched this YouTube review of glues a week ago. https://youtu.be/k-g3efGa3sI Surprised he found Elmers Max was about as good as Titebond III One or the other was top in every test he did. Might be cheaper or more readily available for you.

max2 · « **Reply #6 on:** December 12, 2020, 07:06:06 pm »

Impressive!!
I wonder why Titebond lll is so difficult to get? Did it catch the virus?
If I manufactured this product I would have it in every MITRE 10

Thanks for posting it
max

little john · « **Reply #7 on:** December 14, 2020, 12:26:12 pm »

Hi Max - the company 'Everbuild' based here in the UK has a global reach, and so their products might be available in Oz - worth a quick search perhaps ?

They manufacture two glues which might be of interest: one is called '502' which is D3 grade (meaning it's an external/water resistant glue, providing it's covered in some way - painted etc). The other is called 'D4' which, as it's name suggests is D4 grade (100% waterproof/boil-proof etc).

I use Everbuild D4 for just about everything - joint construction, as an edge sealant etc.
'best
LJ

Russ · « **Reply #8 on:** December 14, 2020, 05:29:42 pm »

Hi.
Another consideration is :- "You'll find that some PVA wood glues are in fact labeled ?food safe?. Titebond III, for example, is listed as FDA approved for indirect food contact, on their technical sheet. Titebond 2 is also safe for indirect food contact" Don't know about the others?
Worth looking into?

paus · « **Reply #9 on:** December 14, 2020, 05:44:09 pm »

I never considered that glue should be food safe ,only that the glue was moisture resistant or better waterproof.

max2 · « **Reply #10 on:** December 14, 2020, 08:22:23 pm »

All good here - my supplier just got a box of Titebond lll in!!
Just in time - I will stick to what I know and have used for many years.
Thanks for the discussion

max

Ben Framed · « **Reply #11 on:** March 20, 2022, 01:56:33 am »

Max I like and depend of Titebond III also. Has things eased up there as far as supplies are concerned?

max2 · « **Reply #12 on:** March 21, 2022, 01:31:04 pm »

I eventually got 3 tubes from different sources here - I have not checked if it is available again.

Ben Framed · « **Reply #13 on:** March 24, 2022, 12:27:37 am »

Hi Max
Good to hear. The last I bought was a gallon. I still have plenty on hand...

Phillip

Ben Framed · « **Reply #14 on:** March 17, 2023, 05:41:26 pm »

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William Bagwell
Surprised he found Elmers Max was about as good as Titebond III One or the other was top in every test he did. Might be cheaper or more readily available for you.

I am surprised about the Elmers also William ..

Michael Bush · « **Reply #15 on:** March 20, 2023, 08:43:18 am »

I mostly buy Titebond but settle for Elmers when Titebond isn't available. I used to buy gallons but it seems someone leaves it out to freeze and then it's ruined.

max2 · « **Reply #16 on:** May 10, 2023, 10:53:47 pm »

When Titebondlll was finally available again I purchsed a few bottles.

I was not aware that it actually does go off. Yes, I tried the shaking, hitting, putting in a warm place etc etc bit....

Ben Framed · « **Reply #17 on:** May 11, 2023, 06:28:25 am »

Max I didn't realize it would would go off. Ive never read the fine print.

Phillip

Sundog · « **Reply #18 on:** May 11, 2023, 12:15:40 pm »

I also prefer Titebond III for the longer set/work time it provides. Because its water based, you can add some when it thickens after a few years. Freezing not an issue in my Florida garage.

The strength numbers of typical vinyl glues are more than adequate when properly applied, unless you expect to be dropping the boxes repeatedly.

Ben Framed · « **Reply #19 on:** May 13, 2023, 04:30:35 pm »

Thanks Sundog, Its good to know it can be refreshed by adding water.

Phillip

max2 · « **Reply #20 on:** August 21, 2023, 06:41:14 pm »

After having a problem buyingTitebond i purchased a couple of tibes and now find that they don't store very well. The glue has lumped up and it will take a lot of masaging to get it right.

Ben Framed · « **Reply #21 on:** August 21, 2023, 11:49:41 pm »

Quote from: max2 on August 21, 2023, 06:41:14 pm

After having a problem buyingTitebond i purchased a couple of tibes and now find that they don't store very well. The glue has lumped up and it will take a lot of masaging to get it right.

Not good news Max, did you store it in a controlled environment ?

Phillip

Ben Framed · « **Reply #22 on:** August 27, 2023, 01:03:28 am »

And I don't know that it comes in tubes here in America. It comes either in a plastic gallon jug or a quart size plastic container.

max2 · « **Reply #23 on:** August 29, 2023, 08:01:24 am »

Quote from: Ben Framed on August 21, 2023, 11:49:41 pm

Quote from: max2 on August 21, 2023, 06:41:14 pm
After having a problem buyingTitebond i purchased a couple of tibes and now find that they don't store very well. The glue has lumped up and it will take a lot of masaging to get it right.

Not good news Max, did you store it in a controlled environment ?

Phillip

What is a " controlled environment" for glue?

Ben Framed · « **Reply #24 on:** August 29, 2023, 08:30:51 am »

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"Max2"
What is a " controlled environment" for glue?

The same as a controlled environment for any other item, product, or being. For example in my location the temperature may range from an extreme of 0-f to 105-f plus. Depending on the time and season of the year and the year itself. Even so I have not had any problems keeping Titebond in an uncontrolled environment. (in a shed out of doors, a place or environment where nature has its way temperature wise in this case).

Since you live in an area of the world 'which may' be more extreme in weather conditions than my area, perhaps this 'might' be the source of your problem with Titebond. I have not read the fine print on storage suggestions by the manufacturer of Titebond, but perhaps if you were to store yours somewhere in your home for example, a place where the extremes are never reached, ("a controlled environment"), your problem would cease? That is if you are not storing it in a
("controlled environment") already? Thus the question. I hope that helps...

Phillip

max2 · « **Reply #25 on:** August 31, 2023, 05:23:18 am »

It was stored in my worksroom - never below say 15 C and never above 32C max

Not sure what the issue is.

When I have a spare moment i will read the fine print

thanks