I bought foundation and cut strips out of that MB, I was reffering to the part of using a wax tube and melting wax to secure the starter strip to the frame. Sorry I should have been a little more clear. I have cut the starter strips with a pizza cutter and have installed them into the wedged frames, I pressed the wedge up tight and shot 3 nails in it with a brad nailer and it feels very secure, but I have been reading latly where other people have done the same and had problems with it coming loose from the wedge. I was going to order a wax tube tomorrow and try to find some wax to go ahead and secure the as best as I can, my bees will be here in 9 days and I feel like a 5 year old with Santa a week away :lol: .