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BEEKEEPING LEARNING CENTER => REQUEENING & RAISING NEW QUEENS => Topic started by: VolunteerK9 on August 13, 2011, 11:15:54 pm
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Its not saying much, because other than making splits, Im not versed in the many different forms of queen rearing. What is this guy using to saturate the cells to basically just float the larvae out (with a good thump of course)
včely v Beskydech-chov matek-larvování (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4b-n7tEp4E#ws)
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This looks really interesting. I hope someone can elaborate on this or find a website explaining it. Thanks for posting the video.
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Diluted honey. It is commonly used to polish cups before grafting.
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As I see it: either warm or diluted warm honey. The guy smacks the frame thus dislodging appropriately aged larvae for grafting. Apparently he finds it easier to graft from the suspended solution. Obviously he is adding royal jelly to each cup before transferring larvae.
Pretty ingenious if you ask me.
My only question would be success rate? And is he using royal jelly that he collected or got it elsewhere?
...JP
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Looks pretty interesting. It would be nice to have a little commentary on what he was using and why though. I wonder how the solution he is using is affecting the acceptance rate though. Seems adding something foreign to the queen cells may have some kind of affect one way or another.
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My only question would be success rate? And is he using royal jelly that he collected or got it elsewhere?
...JP
2 good :? :?
BEE HAPPY Jim 134 :)
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The larvae have to be right side up or they drown. Seems guaranteed to drown them. Not only does it dump them upside down, but he leaves them in the honey until he pulls out the queen cups, messes with them, primes them, and then finally grafts... I'd be curious to see what his take is...
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maybe he is just trying to produce queen cells-to produce royal jelly and dosent care if they take -RDY-B
I tried to do some translating and they ask him about the larve being upside down and here is response--carry-larviček as lying in the cell is just superstition,, larva in my rewinds itself into position.
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May - 60-80%
June - 80-100%
July-70-90%
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I'm not saying he is wrong, but that "superstition" about them drowning if upside down is taught by all of those PhDs teaching queen rearing and they tend to shy away from superstition.
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maybe he is just trying to produce queen cells-to produce royal jelly and dosent care if they take -RDY-B
Will bees give royal jelly to dead or dieing larvae :? :?
BEE HAPPY Jim 134 :)
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I'm not saying he is wrong, but that "superstition" about them drowning if upside down is taught by all of those PhDs teaching queen rearing and they tend to shy away from superstition.
Yeah they do.
But they also stick with what is probably 99% of the stuff that was thought up by, tried, and tested, by beekeepers in the field. ;)
I find this interesting. And will certainly try it. And just because some "PhD" say otherwise that it should not work, is not a reason for me to not try it. It's not like these people have not been wrong before about a boat load of other things.
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I'm not saying he is wrong, but that "superstition" about them drowning if upside down is taught by all of those PhDs teaching queen rearing and they tend to shy away from superstition.
yes but he is saying that the larva unwinds itself-i guess that means they right themselves so they dont drown -it seams to me thats why the honey is thinned so much to the point it floats the larvae so they pop out -that must be a important factor -the honey has to be very thin-there is a art to alot of the third world beekeeping that dosent make much sense to many-very interesting none the less-RDY-B
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Who you calling third world beekeeping? :-D
I think in the state of the bee industry in this country, we should be looking to some of these "third world" countries for some ideas. ;)
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rdy-b.......
I have keep bees in North Africa :-D
BEE HAPPY Jim 134 :)
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I've not tried any technique other than 'split' queen rearing. Wasnt a whole lot I could screw up with the bees requeening themselves. I plan on doing some grafting this upcoming year from a couple of my feral queen swarm hives and had never saw this particular technique before. Thought it was pretty darned cool.