Opium Honey?

[Grandma_DOG]

I was doing research on honey plants. Saw this and asked myself the obvious question - is Opium Honey narcotic?
Is there a dark underbelly of beekeeping smuggling honey?

Poppy, Opium     Papaver somniferum     Annual flower     Per acre:20 - 30 pounds honey; 80 - 120 pounds pollen, which is dark blue in color     Nectar and pollen     Showy garden flowers.

Data from here:
http://www.themelissagarden.com/TMG_Vetaley031608.htm

[rdy-b]

    HONEY PLANTS OF NORTH AMERICA paint a diferant picture -they clam that a acre field would not produce a drop
of nectar-and bees work it for pollen-RDY-B

[Grandma_DOG]

Well, darn, there goes my ideas of an action thriller movie involving lean, mean, beekeepers packing machine guns and smokers.

    HONEY PLANTS OF NORTH AMERICA paint a diferant picture -they clam that a acre field would not produce a drop
of nectar-and bees work it for pollen-RDY-B

[Animator]

I thought the same thing about cannabis. But it's just a not a bee friendly weed.

[Finski]

I was doing research on honey plants. Saw this and asked myself the obvious question

That opium milk is meant to be poison and to protect the plant and pollen is offered for food to pollinators. Nectar is  food too to pollinators.

These are the basics. Beekeeping will not offer  help in drug business.

[Mason]

Even if the bees were to work cannabis it wouldn't give you a buzz.  The active ingredients in cannabis are THC and CDC.  Both require the resin pods to be heated to be released.  This is why eating raw marijuana doesn't have any or very little effect where brownies and smoking it do.

May I suggest mead......... It's legal.

[Grandma_DOG]

I don't drink, but thanks.

Actually part of my initial interest was that Osama Bin Laden was tied to honey trading companies.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/1594143.stm

Therefore, you connect that dot with the location dot of Afganistan and the Opium Dot, do you draw a picture of narcotic honey being smuggled?  If such a link were proved, it would do no good to the honey trade. 

However, as pointed out there is no known narcotic honey.

Even if the bees were to work cannabis it wouldn't give you a buzz.  The active ingredients in cannabis are THC and CDC.  Both require the resin pods to be heated to be released.  This is why eating raw marijuana doesn't have any or very little effect where brownies and smoking it do.

May I suggest mead......... It's legal.

[wd]

Hmm, maybe the honey needs to be cooked to have an affect ... j/k

For myself, with-out reading the link you provided, the dots I connect are with false bottoms, air tight bags, fake walls and so on. Of course smuggling isn't anything new. Thie practice has been done as the unthinkable as much as the obvious. Doesn't matter where funds for projects come from for some, pure or tainted sales, it spends the same.

I don't drink, but thanks.

Actually part of my initial interest was that Osama Bin Laden was tied to honey trading companies.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/1594143.stm

Therefore, you connect that dot with the location dot of Afganistan and the Opium Dot, do you draw a picture of narcotic honey being smuggled?  If such a link were proved, it would do no good to the honey trade.  

However, as pointed out there is no known narcotic honey.

Even if the bees were to work cannabis it wouldn't give you a buzz.  The active ingredients in cannabis are THC and CDC.  Both require the resin pods to be heated to be released.  This is why eating raw marijuana doesn't have any or very little effect where brownies and smoking it do.

May I suggest mead......... It's legal.

[melliphile]

Still, wouldn't opium honey be a great novelty product?  Or pollen, for that matter. I wonder if the poppy growers bring in bees or rely on local pollinators. Any one know about Afghan beekeeping?

[melliphile]

This was all I could find:

http://healthmad.com/nutrition/honey-are-you-toxic/

[joetraff]

That helped a lot.
Keep up the good work of sharing.

[Culley]

In Mexico people gather/grow magic mushrooms, little dark ones, and pickle them fresh in honey. The honey becomes psychoactive too. They sell little jars to tourists.

Plenty of reports of toxic honey, especially in Asia and the tropics. I read a National Geographic article about people taking honey from Apis dorsata nests, and then putting a little in the palm of the hand. If it tingles, it's not safe.

[Finski]

   Nectar and pollen     Showy garden flowers.

As fas as I know, poppies give only pollen.

The link tells too that Rosa canina gives nectar. It is false.

The link says about willows that "The very highest quality pollen you can find anywhere".
That is not true. The raw protein content is about 15% and the need is 22%.


That data makes don't know twhat he has done. Too many clear  mistakes.

http://www.themelissagarden.com/TMG_Vetaley031608.htm

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And here too. salix is wind pollinating. Where you can trust on?
http://www.sonomabees.org/plants/index.html

[zubaer]

We are thinking to start a business like this.Please help us by providing the necessary information about this.We wanna self-stablished by this business.

[jdnewberry]

If you're thinking of making opium honey as a business, it would be a very BAD idea.  Assuming the bees can actually collect nectar from poppies, posession of any part of the plant (except the seed) is illegal and would carry the same fine as a schedule II narcotic.  If the honey contains any alkaloids, it stands to reason that it would carry the same penalty.  

Any attempt to grow the number of plants that would be required to obtain a large enough crop to be profitable is sure to be discovered by the authorities.  According to the link referenced earlier in this thread, you would need at least an acre of plants to produce 7-10 quarts of honey.  If you actually succeed in producing the honey, you still need to be able to sell it.  Opium is no longer popular.  It was replaced by heroin because it's lighter and more concentrated, making it easier to smuggle or store.  Making honey is working in the opposite direction - it would be heavier and bulkier.

I admit that the thought of narcotic honey is amusing, but an attempt to produce it is asking for trouble in a very big way.  For a first time offender, posession of opiates carries a 5-year prison term and up to $1,000,000 fine.  Growing the plants carries a 20-year prison term.  NOT WORTH IT!

[Finski]

If you're thinking of making opium honey as a business, !

It needs a good explanation because poppy flowers have no nectar. They offer only pollen to pollinators.

[jdnewberry]

I was always under the same impression about poppies not producing nectar.  The link above states, however, that 1 acre can yield 20-30 lbs of honey.  It's likely misinformation sice there are a few other incorrect statements in their list, but I've also never had poppies as the only available source for my bees.  I decided to give them the benefit of the doubt!

[Finski]

.  The link above states, however, that 1 acre can yield 20-30 lbs of honey. 

Many links have mistakes what they inform about nectar plants. Perhaps there are weeds in the poppyfield where they got nectar.

[kluger1372]

Is it another kind of drug?

[jdave1372]

Honey of opium? This is the most bizarre thing I've ever heard.