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BEEKEEPING LEARNING CENTER => HONEYBEE REMOVAL => Topic started by: FloridaGardener on June 07, 2020, 10:33:24 am

Title: Going, going, gone!
Post by: FloridaGardener on June 07, 2020, 10:33:24 am
I bid low on this, it was close to home and looked easy.  Went smoothly...
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I patched those neat little discs sequentially into frames with rubber bands and toothpicks...Perfect order, perfectly straight little nest. 

But I was short on one important element in the new hive setup -
A queen excluder under the hive body. 

  :embarassed:
THAT is not going to happen again. 

Was chatting with another beek, same thing happened when he hived a caught swarm.  Misery loves company, as the saying goes, so I thought I should post it here.  *sigh*

Title: Re: Going, going, gone!
Post by: BeeMaster2 on June 07, 2020, 03:04:09 pm
Good job.
Since you have brood, there is a good chance they will not leave.
Swarms that are put in a box need the queen excluder to keep them in for a couple of days.
Jim Altmiller
Title: Re: Going, going, gone!
Post by: FloridaGardener on June 07, 2020, 04:20:23 pm
Aww, Jim, that was the surprise.  Gone.  They did leave.  From now on I'm using the excluder, even if they have brood!
 :oops:

The brood was trimmed off the roof, and hived in my apiary in about 90 minutes.  It's wasn't chilled, it was 75-80 degrees out.

Title: Re: Going, going, gone!
Post by: iddee on June 07, 2020, 06:48:59 pm
Sorry, Jim, but a cutout will leave brood often. It happens too often to be comfortable with leaving her loose.
Title: Re: Going, going, gone!
Post by: Ben Framed on June 08, 2020, 02:05:57 pm
I do not know if it is the right thing to do or not, but I learned from Schawee and JP to leave the queen in the clip inside the new cutout for a time of settling in before releasing her. This has worked well for me. I have not used the excluder for this purpose,,,,, (yet).
Title: Re: Going, going, gone!
Post by: Waveeater on July 18, 2020, 09:31:38 am
I also learned the hard way this week after doing a cut out for a friend of a large colony in the side of his house. I did not restrict the queen and after two days they left and went to the top of a tree where they stayed for three more days before finally leaving. They completely ignored three swarm traps I had set up near the bay yard. Lesson learned.  this is the first colony I have had to do this to me after many cut outs. From now on I will restrict the queen.